Windows Vista: They Like It!

Not surprisingly, Microsoft's recent "blind taste test" of Windows Vista has yielded the kind of PR bonanza that Microsoft couldn't beg, borrow or steal just a few weeks ago. This week, the company released a slew of videos showing some of the 140 consumers videotaped in San Francisco using Vista for the first time. But the users weren't told they were using Vista, as they were selected specifically because they believed that Vista wasn't any good. Instead, these people believed they were using a future Windows version, codenamed Windows "Mojave."

The comments made by these individuals are emblematic of the problems Microsoft now faces when it tries to market Vista to a world that, apparently, has already made up its mind about the OS. "I heard negative things; I never tried it myself," one woman says. "I wouldn't touch the thing." "It's horrible, it has so many problems." "I've heard nothing but bad things about Vista, really." On and on it goes. On a scale from 1 to 10, the average pre-rating for Windows Vista was 4.4, Microsoft says.

Then, the users were shown "Mohave" and walked through (Vista) features like backup and restore, parental controls, recording TV, and making DVD movies. The comments changed dramatically "Wow!" "I like that security feature." (Breathlessly) "That's great." "It's awesome." "Really cool." "It's really impressive." "It's totally different from what I heard it would be like." "It's an awesome program, but you have to see it for yourself." The average rating after the hands-on demonstration was 8.5. "Many would have rated it higher, but they wanted more time to play with it themselves," Microsoft notes.

Most tellingly, perhaps, not one of the 140 participants rated Vista lower than their initial pre-rating after having actually used the OS. And fully 94 percent of respondents rated Vista more highly.

The best part of this experiment, of course, is when the participants were told that they were really using Windows Vista. "Really?" one man asks, incredulously. Mouths literally drop. Laughter ensues. "Son of a gun," one man says. "You got me."

Perhaps. Or perhaps it was Apple with its often questionable anti-Vista advertising. Perhaps it was the under-qualified but pontificating tech pundits who bashed Vista incessantly. Or maybe it was, to be fair, Microsoft's months of silence on this issue. By doing nothing for so long, Microsoft has only exacerbated the problem.

Criticisms aside, Microsoft is finally fighting back. Finally. Turns out, all it had to do--go figure--is show people what Vista is really like. What a concept.

You can check out the videos on the Mohave Experiment Web site.

Discuss this Article 19

Waethorn
on Jul 30, 2008
"MS offered up no good "in a nutshell, here's how the OS changed what you, the IT Pro, do on a daily basis" guidance" oh, i dunno....i'd say ease of deployment, management, and security pretty much covers it all.... i'm in charge of contract IT for several companies from small to large, and managed services using SBS management and System Center on the mid-large scale is extremely easy and profitable. XP deployment vs. Vista is like night and day. Vista's HAL-independent imaging and deployment tools are literally a joy to use over XP's. SCCM+MDT helps, but doesn't mitigate issues that are inherent to XP's HAL dependence. "Vista's UI and features look impressive in a controlled demonstration by a professional on top-of-the-line hardware." ya, you know, cuz a T7500 and 2GB of RAM HP laptop is really "top-of-the-line".... "I'll skip Vista and go to 64-bit Windows Server 2008 for my next workstation." that's the most retarded thing i've heard so far....aside from everything else you've said. "This isnt about "Do you like vista", Its about "Will vista run on MY computer with MY software!!!!!" i'd like to see the number of people that actually upgraded from Windows 98 or ME to XP on the same hardware....and then give them a good shaking.... "But I've been at this game for the past 20+ years and Vista is just bloatware as far as I'm concerned." i bet you said the same thing when Windows 95 added a TCP/IP stack out of the box. @"wlow": that's how Microsoft track sales. that's been the way they've always done it. if you can't keep up and get used to it by now, then TS. businesses buying volume licensing are adopting Vista faster than XP was. get used to that too. XP
wlow3
on Jul 31, 2008
Windows Vista: The real world doesn't seem to like it much at all "Fewer than one in 11 of the PCs being used in large or very large enterprises runs Windows Vista, according to survey results released Wednesday by Forrester Research Inc.," Eric Lai reports for Computerworld. "Of the 50,000 enterprise users surveyed by the Cambridge, Mass., analyst firm, 87.1% were still running Windows XP at the end of June, compared to 8.8% for Vista. According to author Thomas Mendel, that implies that the majority of PCs upgraded to Vista were those running older versions of Windows, such as Windows 2000 or 98," Lai reports. "'Vista is 'new Coke,' Mendel wrote, comparing Microsoft's flagship operating system to the ill-fated soft drink. Enterprises still on the fence about Vista would be wise, he said, to 'consider following the lead of Microsoft's important partner Intel and re-evaluating the case of Vista,'" Lai reports. Lai reports, "Mendel's comments undercut the momentum for Vista claimed by Microsoft, which says it has sold 180 million licenses for its 18-month-old operating system to PC makers and end users."
RoscoeSF (not verified)
on Jul 30, 2008
I'm never rolling out Vista in my enterprise specifically because: - the file structure has changed too much to where even my savvy pilot users got too frustrated - a domain admin should never get "access denied" on any non-OS folders, period - MS offered up no good "in a nutshell, here's how the OS changed what you, the IT Pro, do on a daily basis" guidance Cute PR stunt by MS - I'll wait for the next version, or just cut out MS from all my client machines soon - XP is fine
keithsheard@gma...
on Jul 31, 2008
Great for smoke and mirrors from Microsoft. Check back with those folk in two months, how many installed Vista and how many think the same. I use Vista from time to time and nothing has changed my opinion. Vista is a waste of time and resources. Why reinvent the OS interface when it is not broken. No Vista in any flavour for me. KRS
RunTimeError
on Jul 30, 2008
@Jaxbulls: Also, I'd like to know what hardware they were running these demos on. Seriously, if these demo boxes were suped up, quad core screaming machines (which they more than likely were), how would one of these test users feel if they straight from the demo, bought Vista, ran home and tried to upgrade their five year old HP?
Me (not verified)
on Jul 30, 2008
Since I first read about this "test", I have been seeing red and shouting blue. Just another in a series of MS BS and obfiscation. Since this show was run on PCs built and optimized for vista, of course they liked the OS and eye candy. When MS brings together the same group with their own home computers, hooks them to the internet, and hands them a vista CD and says "go for it", I will take more notice. I doubt most would be able to get most of their hardware and software to work without having to download new drivers and software versions. This isnt about "Do you like vista", Its about "Will vista run on MY computer with MY hardware and MY software!!!!!
Jonathan (not verified)
on Jul 30, 2008
@RunTimeError Engadget has a picture saying HP Pavilion DV 2000 with 2gb of ram. http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/28/microsofts-mojave-experiment-promotes-vista-ashton-kutcher/ I'm not sure I really care about the experience of upgrading any pc older than a 2-year-old pc and I think Paul has made the same point. Microsoft's main goal is to change the perception that Vista sucks and to stop users from wanting to downgrade new pc's and IT not wanting to take a look at Vista period. Also, I am fine with the demo running on a new roughly $1,000 HP laptop with what should be the new standard for ram (2gb).
Jonathan (not verified)
on Jul 30, 2008
I think the great follow-up to this series would be getting these people back after 1-month of usage. I really discount this whole thing because they make it seem like these are the reactions after a short demo. You can even make Linux demo nicely and have people ooo-ing and ahh-ing over it. I use Vista every day and I do like it and I know right off the top of my head the things that would make people give reactions like this. I mean seriously, show them Mahjong and my mother would be jumping out of their seat. I just want them to be more specific and more targeted. Also my other concern is how realistic are the features they demoed, specifically backup/restore and recording tv. One would assume the computers were already setup and configured with the tv signal coming in. Would my mom really be able to get that working? I know the media center interface is really nice so thats not a problem, just getting people to that interface is the problem. Also I've had Vista since the first week it was out and I do need to try the backup feature, I have no idea where its found or how to work it. I work in IT and have not come across this yet. I also have a mac at home and time machine while frivolous in its looks is dead simple to use. So all in all I think Microsoft could knock it out of the park if they just moved this beyond a 10-20 minute product demo.
Christopher
on Jul 31, 2008
Some of you are getting just a little too worked up about this article. It's not like MS sent a guy with a lawn mower to chase down your favorite pet.
Stan (not verified)
on Jul 30, 2008
Oooh I so love blind taste test. Here's flavour A and heres flavour B. Which do you like best? Really! How hard is it to check your email or browse the web? Any OS can be real easy to use. But put it in the hands of an experienced Windows user, that does a whole lot more than just emails and browse ****, and it's a different story. I will always maintain that Vista is an OS for people that don't use computers. Someone walks into a store and buys a computer for the first time. Great! But I've been at this game for the past 20+ years and Vista is just bloatware as far as I'm concerned. Now maybe if they had an I.T. version to go along with the other 6 versions of Vista.
sx4sport@hotmail.com (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2008
Yeouch - good ting they didn't dupe the dopes in this comments section... Oh well...at least ordinary consumers get a chance to look at a modern o/s without the biased ramblings...
Paul (not verified)
on Jul 30, 2008
A real Vista sale would be if someone with a pc running XP goes out and buys an upgrade to Vista, installs it and is happy. Getting Vista with a new pc, whether you like it or not, is not an endorsement of Vista. Counting a Vista license which has been "downgraded" to XP by a company as a Vista sale is a lie. M$ forcing people to buy Vista licenses to get XP should be illegal. Where are the monopoly laws?
wlow3
on Aug 1, 2008
JOHN DVORAK: Software giant humiliates ignorant users and itself "... If all the test subjects for Mojave said they were dead wrong and that Vista is great and on and on, all it proves is that Microsoft's marketing team did one of the worst jobs of selling a new and important product for the company. "Doesn't anyone at Microsoft realize that showing up ignorant users in the "Mojave Experiment" video is not only humiliating, and that revealing how off-base the public perception is that the company also humiliates itself? Public perception is supposed to be managed by Microsoft, not the critics or the competition. ... "Ironically, the comments made in the Mojave video do nothing more than confirm the problem. As things sit now, Vista is no more than a pathetic embodiment of the sad-sack character portrayed by Hodgman in the Apple ads as far as the public is concerned. "The likelihood of the mostly humorless Microsoft approach to advertising somehow matching Apple's in effectiveness is nil. In this race for mindshare, Microsoft is the tortoise and Apple is the hare. "But unlike in the fable where the hare dawdled, Apple left the starting line two years early and has been going full tilt ever since. The tortoise is apparently brain-damaged and doing nothing."
wlow3
on Jul 30, 2008
All Microsoft had to do is show people what Vista is really like??? Please, Paul - what a joke! Isn't that what they're suppose to get from purchasing it in the first place? What you mean is that they need a lab-controlled, 20 minute hand-holding product demo to keep them from seeing how awful it is. You really think you can scapegoat 18 months of a bad experience on an Apple ad campaign and some tech writers? Hey, could it be that some of the bad experience came from Micro$oft authorizing manufacturers to stick "Vista Capable" stickers on machines that could not run it, or from rushing it out before drivers were ready, or while it was still ridiculously buggy (like that maddeningly slow copy bug). Hmm? And as for your previous bogus PR claim that Microsoft is selling 20 million Vista licenses a month ... HP: Microsoft counting XP-loaded PCs as ‘Vista’ sales "Business PC buyers are still overwhelmingly opting for XP, computer giant HP has revealed," Dan Warne reports for APC Magazine. "HP's revelation, made at the launch of a new range of business notebooks, flies in the face of Microsoft's persistent PR claims that Vista has sold tens of millions of copies — and is selling at a faster rate than XP ever did," Warne reports. "However, HP explained how Microsoft is coming up with these 'Vista' sales figures," Warne reports. "'From the 30th of June, we have no longer been able to ship a PC with a XP licence,' said Jane Bradburn, Market Development Manager, Commercial Notebooks for HP Australia," Warne reports. "'However, what we have been able to do with Microsoft is ship PCs with a Vista Business licence but with XP pre-loaded. That is still the majority of business computers we are selling today.'" Warne reports, "So, in other words, Microsoft counts a sale for Vista, even though the computer manufacturer has really sold XP." Something tells me you would never report this inconvenient news on your own. Why? Because you have no integrity.
dvally
on Jul 31, 2008
I bought Windows XP Media Center edition to run on a system I built myself, I received a free upgrade to Vista Home Premium. When I rec'd the Vista media, I was able to upgrade my homemade machine with no issues. That was in March of 2007, at that time I did have some problems getting applications to work with Vista. But since that time, every application I normally use has been updated to run with Vista. I have been using Vista daily since then. It took some getting used to, but every new OS does. My system is not top of the line, it's 18 months old. Vista runs reliably, I have never gotten a BSOD (yet - never say never). I boot up the system and it runs fast and stable. I have a dual core (e6400) processor with 2GB RAM and an ATI Radeon 1950 video card with 256MB RAM. I don't think this is top of the line. What it comes down to is that people know how XP works and they don't want to even try Vista, since they have to learn the OS over again. Every new OS has changes, I specifically remember people whining about this same issue when XP was released. If you don't have the smarts to learn new tricks, then maybe Vista is not for you. I still like XP, but I use Vista daily and would not go back. Of course this is just my opinion, and I am sure yours will vary.
Gregg (not verified)
on Aug 1, 2008
This article seems a bit one-sided. We read the stock, Microsoft pitch, but it ignores the valid arguments against Vista. I've had the unfortunate task of supporting users on Vista. In my experience, Vista requires a recently made PC that is not a low-end machine. It has problems using older printers, scanners, and software - so be prepared for a lot of other upgrade costs. Microsoft chose to build-in some DRM functions that have removed functionality from some of your hardware. In my opinion, if you're going to go through the pain of learning a new operating system, you might as well try out a Mac and a Linux box. Maybe you'll find things to like in those operating systems too.
Waethorn
on Aug 1, 2008
"Why reinvent the OS interface when it is not broken" because then you'd just have another OS X point release, only with actual changes. @wlow: go back to eWeak. Joe is calling. XP
Me (not verified)
on Jul 30, 2008
Since I first read about this "test", I have been seeing red and shouting blue. Just another in a series of MS BS and obfiscation. Since this show was run on PCs built and optimized for vista, of course they liked the OS and eye candy. When MS brings together the same group with their own home computers, hooks them to the internet, and hands them a vista CD and says "go for it", I will take more notice. I doubt most would be able to get most of their hardware and software to work without having to download new drivers and software versions. This isnt about "Do you like vista", Its about "Will vista run on MY computer with MY software!!!!!
Ken (not verified)
on Jul 30, 2008
Sure, Vista's UI and features look impressive in a controlled demonstration by a professional on top-of-the-line hardware. It's when you need to run it yourself on ordinary machines and do real work that the problems show up. When you discover that the bloated OS slows to a crawl, you wish you had XP back. When every reasonable action causes a UAC prompt you grit your teeth and roll back to XP for real. It seems to me that Paul hated Vista up to the final build. His reviews suddenly (and suspiciously) changed when he got the release candidate. I'll skip Vista and go to 64-bit Windows Server 2008 for my next workstation.

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