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October 02, 2006

Exclusive: Here Comes Windows Vista RC2 [Updated]

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Microsoft will ship the final prerelease version of Windows Vista on Friday and, unexpectedly, will name the new version Release Candidate 2 (RC2). (Microsoft had stated earlier that it wouldn't ship an RC2 milestone release of Vista.) But don't let the name fool you. RC2 is really just a standard interim build of Vista, but unlike RC1, it won't be distributed to millions of users.

The RC2 build is 5743, and Microsoft is currently testing it internally. As with the previous interim build, 5728, RC2 will go to beta testers, Microsoft Developer Network (MSDN) and TechNet subscribers, and a random, limited number of Consumer Preview Program (CPP) members.

Although Microsoft wouldn't confirm the specifics of the release, the company did corroborate that it's planning an upcoming interim Vista build. "As we have previously discussed, Microsoft does plan to deliver more interim builds of Windows Vista before releasing the final product," a Microsoft spokesperson told me. "The exact name of the build and the date of its release have not been announced."

This is the last build Microsoft will be making available to the public prior to release to manufacturing (RTM). The RTM--which had been expected to be "on or before October 25"--has been adjusted slightly. Now, the Vista launch window begins October 18, when Microsoft will begin testing the final planned build for RTM. But Microsoft doesn't expect to finalize the product until sometime between October 25 and November 8.

Internal documentation notes that each daily delay after October 25 comes at a price, however: For each day past October 25, Microsoft will ship one less localized, language-specific version of Vista for the January launch. However, the company is prepared to do that to ensure that Vista's quality is high.

The internal documentation also notes that Vista still has more than 1400 bugs. Microsoft's internal processes require this bug count to drop to 500 or fewer before the product can go into escrow for RTM. By comparison, Vista had more than 2470 bugs on September 22.

In related news, Microsoft will be changing the product keys it uses for Vista after the product hits the RTM escrow phase. Consequently, users won't be able to use prerelease Vista product keys to install the RTM version. My understanding is that this change won't affect the RC2 release.

Update: Since this article was first written, Microsoft has had to advance the RC2 build to 5744.16384.061003-1945. The company still plans to ship RC2 to testers on Friday.

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Reader Comments
"each daily delay after October 25 comes at a price, however: For each day past October 25, Microsoft will start to lose languages for the January launch."


What does that mean? Lose languages? Does it mean that Vista will not include as many non-English languages if it is delayed past 25 October?

bdkjones October 02, 2006 (Article Rating: )


Build 5600 was slow but worked, while build 5728 randomly blue-screens on start up. I wonder if the fact they're going against their word (again) calling this RC2 means that Vista needs more testing.

Preseton October 02, 2006 (Article Rating: )


Cool that good that tere will be one more RC2 sound good to me.

as for build 5728 it good to here that it not just me that it randomly blue-screens but i have had it do it on start up yet.

let hope that they fix it fast.

as for Lose languages it be my guest that the non-English languages would be what goes, but MS will be able to put then back when SP1 comes out.
as of the kennel update that it will do.

so I don't think thats a big thing for the to lose then.

as for RC1 it was that slow was it seem ok to me most off the time.

as for Product Keys that would be a good idear.
I still think it will be October 27th not the 25th buta that just me.

ra@ix.net.au October 03, 2006 (Article Rating: )


"What does that mean? Lose languages? Does it mean that Vista will not include as many non-English languages if it is delayed past 25 October?"

It probably means they won't be able to produce as many localized copies. Localization is completed in the last stages of development after all changes in text have been finalized.

orion.adrian@gmail.com October 03, 2006 (Article Rating: )


looking forward to it. but i'm very please with RC1. Having said that...vista is a memory hog. 1GB is now the most "acceptable" minimum with 2GB being the optimal for serious users. 512 is simply not enough. You can tell they are using a lot of .net code under the hood since that framework is infamous for it's high memory usage.

guruguru October 03, 2006 (Article Rating: )


I don't know, I've installed Vista on my lappy, and its only got 512MB. Performance was fine, but I didn't have aero on because of the video card. (hey, when i bought the thing XP was the new OS lol)

Vista seems to goldfish-it alot. If you have 1GB of mem, it'll suck up around 400MB. IF you have 512MB like on my lappy, it'll suck up around 200MB. I'm upgrading this month, so I'll see how it likes a 2GB footprint (albiet if it eats up 800MB I might get miffed heh)

I did notice that searches on the laptop were not realtime like on the desktop. Vista really has that desktop search thing sorted out, it doesn't feel like *searching* anymore. But on the laptop it took maybe a split second, wasn't instantaneous. So maybe the extra memory is just a bigger index cache.

will84 October 03, 2006 (Article Rating: )


"I'm upgrading this month, so I'll see how it likes a 2GB footprint (albiet if it eats up 800MB I might get miffed heh)"

An OS should eat up as much memory is it needs while not interfering with other software. If you have this non-consumable resource, why wouldn't you use it to maximum efficiency.

What is should do is drop it's own memory usage when the resource becomes scarce.

orion.adrian@gmail.com October 03, 2006 (Article Rating: )


Something tells me Microsoft will ship Vista with more than 500 open bugs. Besides, they got to have bugs in order to allow for exploits so that people get the most out of their OneCare subscriptions.

As for localization, I'm guessing Microsoft will have more coders working on the Plus! Pack for Vista at this point than the Swahili version of Vista.

vandil October 03, 2006 (Article Rating: )


"Something tells me Microsoft will ship Vista with more than 500 open bugs. Besides, they got to have bugs in order to allow for exploits so that people get the most out of their OneCare subscriptions."

vandil, uhm Preseton, uhm bonch --since you are in the know about Apple's OS X development, can you tell us how many open bugs OS X Tiger shipped with?

Oh, and I just installed the lates OS X patches, and now my boot time is about 4 minutes. What is that all about???

--tayme

tayme October 03, 2006 (Article Rating: )


"I just installed the lates OS X patches, and now my boot time is about 4 minutes. What is that all about???"

Let me explain this for you:

After a point release update, your Mac has to reboot into Single User mode so it can apply certain changes. This happens during that first extended load screen (the apple logo+swirly gear screen). Once the updates are set, your Mac then reboots into standard mode in its usual fast form.

If *your* Mac fails to boot fast after the point release's initial reboot, then you should flash the P-RAM (hold Apple+Option+P+R at startup for 2-3 chimes, then release) and see if that fixes things.

vandil October 03, 2006 (Article Rating: )


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