Zune to Debut at $250 on November 14

Reportedly surprised by Apple's recent iPod price cuts, Microsoft this week announced that its upcoming Zune MP3 player will be priced at $249.99, the same price as the iPod model it most closely resembles. Microsoft also said it now plans to sell Zune in the United States on November 14.

"On November 14 we're delivering not only a device, but a shared, social experience that will be shaped by the collective imagination of consumers," said Chris Stephenson, general manager of global marketing for Zune. "We're infusing the spirit of discovery and sharing into everything we do--from the experience we crafted around the device and service to preloading music and videos on every device to expose people to something new."

Zune is an iPod-like device that features a 30GB hard disk, a 3-inch color screen that works in landscape and portrait modes, a built-in FM tuner, and unique sharing features. The first-generation Zune will include a selection of preloaded content, including songs, music videos, and short movies, and will be available in three colors: white, black, and brown.

Microsoft will be providing a new online service called Zune Marketplace that will let Zune users browse and purchase songs for about 99 cents each. Unlike Apple's iTunes service, however, Zune Marketplace will also offer a $14.99 monthly subscription called Zune Pass that will give subscribers access to all Zune Marketplace content.

A wide array of accessories will be available for Zune at launch. In addition to prepackaged sets of accessories (the Home A/V Pack, for integrating the device into a home theatre; the Zune Travel Pack; and the Zune Car Pack), numerous standalone accessories will be available, including an A/V Output Cable, AC Adapter, Sync Cable, Car Charger, Dock, Wireless Remote, Dual Connect Remote, FM Tuner with AutoSeek, and Premium Earphones.

This should all sound familiar to iPod users. The big differentiator is that Zune will include wireless capabilities that will let Zune users share music with each other. Microsoft has yet to describe this feature in detail but has said that Zune users will be able to actually transmit protected content to other users, at least for a temporary time period. "This is just the beginning," Stephenson said.

One problem that Microsoft is being open about is that the company will lose money on the first-generation Zune. Microsoft says the Zune is a "multiyear strategy," like the Xbox 360, and that the company is in this business for the long haul. Starting next year, we'll see several other portable devices that will be compatible with the Zune products.

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MysterMask
on Sep 30, 2006
Has anybody mentioned the crappy battery time you'll get with a wifi-enabled device? MS must be pretty desperate to ge a new revenue source beside Windows / Office that they try the enter yet another market while they loose money with everything besides Windows / Office. (Well then, dear Windows / Office users - How does it feel to pay with your licence fees for yet another MS failure?)
Preseton
on Sep 28, 2006
@shark47: "Okay, so you think it's crappy. Great!" It was a brown joke. :) "They own the patent on that anyway." No, they don't. "By the way, please tell me why moving the thumb on a touchpad like surface is easier than simply clicking a button?" Um, because having to scroll through a 1,000+ artist list by clicking a holding a button SUCKS when you can use a scroll wheel that has movement acceleration, even for volume control. Stop being disingenuous. That's like asking why using a mouse is better than using a keyboard in Doom. "And please don't bring South Park into this!"" It's hilarious that you guys have latched onto what was a comment on public perceptions of Bill Gates in pop culture. Oh, and please don't compare Bill Gates to Jesus Christ again!
Vandil (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Live(R) Zune(R) 2007 Brown Edition. I can't wait to see this iPod-knock-off die a slow, horrible death. It'll certainly be the first music player to get a virus that will not only potentially brick the device, but also infect the host PC you sync it with.
cuibap (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
and the 2nd thing: I think ipod is overrated!
MysterMask
on Oct 1, 2006
"Yeah, I mean my PSP only gets about 8hrs with wifi enabled." You mean the SOON is going to be as big and clunky as a PSP? *LOL*
Will (not verified)
on Oct 2, 2006
"You mean the SOON is going to be as big and clunky as a PSP?" With wit and pun-wielding of that calibur, I bet your top in your class heh.
Preseton
on Sep 28, 2006
@will84: ""Microsoft says the Zune is a "multiyear strategy,"" If anyone does buy one, this is comforting. MS is one of the few companies that can sell 0 of these things and still stay in the market for 5 or 6 years." ROFL. This says everything that needs to be said about Microsoft entering new markets. :)
Will (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
"Microsoft says the Zune is a "multiyear strategy,"" If anyone does buy one, this is comforting. MS is one of the few companies that can sell 0 of these things and still stay in the market for 5 or 6 years.
Preseton
on Sep 29, 2006
Uh, I thought everyone knew I was bonch.
Stick (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
Sweet! I can't wait to do some side by side comparisons with other players in the stores. "Starting next year, we'll see a number of other portable devices using the Zune brand." Is this what's going to become of Orgami as well? Or was that just MS blowing smoke for some unknown reason?
Stick (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
"Search engines," They've always had one. I know I used it until Goolge came along and redefined what a search engie was. We've been around the block with this regarding IE - it took some competition to wake MS up. Will Live Search topple Google? Probably not, but it's nice to see MS overhaul their search. "web services," They've always had most of these too. Truth be told of the new stuff, Spaces is pretty damn awesome. And, seriously, what company isn't trying to get into Web services these days? They all can leave teh online office stuff out though. No on is going to use that crap. "cell phones," They haven’t released on yet. They will. And people will whine. Then again, Apple will release one in a year or two and everyone will applaud their innovation... even though cell phones with music and pictures and video have been out for, oh, two years now? So what if MS want to release one as well. "ultra-mobile PCs," C'mon, NOBODY has got this right yet. "ad serving," They do it just as annoyingly as others. "television," What? You have never used Media Center? Or are you implying that MS is going to make TV's? I don't even know what you're talking about here. "Oh, come on, Microsoft is using a crappy color (literally) to avoid being accused of ripping off the idea of using colors? And yet they're not afraid to use an iPod form factor with a clickwheel-like button?" I didn't say that, did I? That last sentence I wrote was a stab at Apple for accusing MS of ripping them off all the time. What I said was: "What's wrong with brown? Seriously? Reto is, and always will be, "in" ... everyone I know (even die hard iPod owners) think the brown Zune is pretty damn cool. I'd even be willing to bet good money that the brown Zune will be their biggest seller." Whether I end up getting one or not, my ONLY wish is that Microsoft ships the Zune with headphones that are any other colour but white :-)
Preseton
on Sep 28, 2006
@shark47: "Ummm. I never did. Frankly, I still can't believe why you'd bring in a South Park episode to support an argument." Oh, you can believe it, you're just acting "shocked" because it's all you have to latch onto It's obvious to anyone that I made a point about Bill Gates' public image via a tongue-in-cheek reference to his appearance in the South Park film. And it's still a 100% valid point. He's not viewed as a humanitarian, he's a punchline in cartoons and on late-night talk shows. Case closed.
shark47
on Sep 28, 2006
Vandil, bonch is waiting for you. Go finish your homework first.
Bryan (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
Here's my question: The Xbox still hasn't made Microsoft any money and it's been out for, what, 5 years? How long will Microsoft put up with losing money on Zune before they close shop? My point is, it sounds like a risky investment. If you buy one of these players and then a few years down the road Microsoft realizes it can't make a dime on the program and shuts down Zune marketplace, you're stuck with a useless player.
hey (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
"My point is, it sounds like a risky investment. If you buy one of these players and then a few years down the road Microsoft realizes it can't make a dime on the program and shuts down Zune marketplace, you're stuck with a useless player." You have a partial point. Although, you could say the same for the iPod and iTunes as well. Given the churn on these devices, it probably will be a useless device in three years anyway. And you certainly will still be able to use your purchased DRM'd MP3s and your personal MP3s. And I'm sure that it will be hacked to do more than originally intended.
Winston (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
Hmmm, this is interesting. A poster by the name of Bonchx posted the following on Digg.com: http://www.digg.com/gadgets/Microsoft_sets_price_for_Zune_songs "Honestly, I've never understood XBox buyers. You're essentially buying a monitor-less, keyboard-less PC with a scaled-down CPU. This was even more true of the X-Box 1, which is quite literally a box of low-cost PC parts. Whatever floats your boat, I guess." Now, is it just me or this similar to Preseton's post earlier in this thread? "I've never understood XBox buyers, who don't seem to realize they're simply buying a monitor-less PC (especially the X-Box 1, which was literally a group of cheap PC parts arranged in a black box)."
Bryan (not verified)
on Sep 29, 2006
Cuibap: Regarding the features you mentioned: Wireless - I guess that's your thing. I don't think most of the market is really interested in glorified "file transfers" that can be used just 3 times. If this feature worked like the iTunes sharing - where everyone in range can listen to any of your music without transferring the files, that would be great. Format - What about this? It's just another locked-in format. AAC, MP3 or WMA - they've all got DRM. Why is the format a selling point for you? Plays nice With Media Center - sure, ok. Fortunately, you made my point for me. I thought the only reason you're so gung-ho about Zune is because you hate Apple. You proved that quite beyond a doubt. Thank you.
cuibap (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
That's a great news. I've been holding off for a good player. This is it. I'll get 2: one for me and one for the wife.
Preseton
on Sep 28, 2006
@sticknick: "Really? I have yet to see them failing. Windows is still number 1 on the desktop and is way up there with server OS's. Their Office suite is second to none." And those are the two markets they are strong in. I was talking about entering other markets in which they consistently fail. And in server OSes, UNIX is still #1. "Their hardware is spectacular (I'd say that they need to stop putting silly email and media buttons on their keyboards, but nearly every hardware company these days is guilty of that). Their PC games are top of the line and X-box is slowly but surely taking over in the console race." Microsoft is hardly #1 in keyboards, and they don't even manufacture those. They contract out to a third-party that brands them with the Microsoft name. XBox has been a money-loser from the start and has yet to generate net profits for the company. The hardcore gamers are waiting for the market leader, Sony, to release their Playstation 3, and everyone else is waiting for the ultra-affordable Wii which comes with a hard drive, built-in WiFi, an revolutionary input device, and a bundled game--unlike the more expensive XBox 360 Core version which doesn't come with any of those things. I've never understood XBox buyers, who don't seem to realize they're simply buying a monitor-less PC (especially the X-Box 1, which was literally a group of cheap PC parts arranged in a black box). "So, again: where is the failure?" Search engines, web services, cell phones, ultra-mobile PCs, ad serving, television, and much more over the span of 15 years. And now, portable music players. "Sure, MS could have made silver, blue, green, and pink Zunes ... but then they'd get accused of ripping off Apple and blah blah blah." Oh, come on, Microsoft is using a crappy color (literally) to avoid being accused of ripping off the idea of using colors? And yet they're not afraid to use an iPod form factor with a clickwheel-like button?
hey (not verified)
on Sep 29, 2006
Regarding the similarities to bonch, I think that Preseton is definately the softer side of bonch. Not nearly as arrogant or annoying. At Digg, I also noticed this by poster Bonchx: "That huge, beautiful screen has the exact same screen resolution of the iPod--QVGA 320x240--so all you're getting are stretched pixels and slightly more illegible text. Also, to answer the question about how the Zune WiFi is crippled, you can only share songs for three days. People aren't going to want that. If you want to share songs with your friends, you're just going to give them the original MP3s. The WiFi sharing feature is a dud." Same reasoning that Preseton offered here. And not to beat things to death too much here, but another tidbit posted by bonchx: http://digg.com/apple/Aspyr_Media_To_Publish_Sims_2_Pets_For_Mac_Weeks_After_PC_Version Hmm, sounds a little like the "getting real work done" mantra.
Bryan (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
Here's my question: The Xbox still hasn't made Microsoft any money and it's been out for, what, 5 years? How long will Microsoft put up with losing money on Zune before they close shop? My point is, it sounds like a risky investment. If you buy one of these players and then a few years down the road Microsoft realizes it can't make a dime on the program and shuts down Zune marketplace, you're stuck with a useless player.
Robert (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
"On November 14 we're delivering not only a device, but a shared, social experience that will be shaped by the collective imagination of consumers," "We're infusing the spirit of discovery and sharing into everything we do--from the experience we crafted around the device and service to pre-loading music and videos on every device to expose people to something new." I really, REALLY hate reading press releases because this is how they all sound. People don't talk like this! Just once I'd like to hear one of these guys speak English and speak to the average consumer instead of trying to sound vague and impressive.
Preseton
on Sep 30, 2006
@shark47: "And to think I was trying to reason with him!! Hmmm..." You didn't try to reason with me at all.
shark47
on Sep 28, 2006
"A poster by the name of Bonchx posted the following on Digg.com:" Weird. I don't think preseton is bonch, though. Regarding Zune, I really hope Microsoft adds Plays For Sure support to it. It's always good to have choices.
shark47
on Sep 28, 2006
"Frankly, I still can't believe why you'd bring in a South Park episode to support an argument." *Correction: I still can't understand... The show is supposed to be irreverent. They make fun of EVERYONE. Late night shows make fun of everyone too. I don't know if you're ignorant or stubborn or both? But you can't use that to back up your argument.
Bryan (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
Cuibap: May I ask what, in your mind, makes Zune a "good player"? Have you tried one yet or are you conjecturing? What about this player satisfies the needs you've been "waiting for"?
shark47
on Sep 28, 2006
"Oh, come on, Microsoft is using a crappy color (literally) to avoid being accused of ripping off the idea of using colors? And yet they're not afraid to use an iPod form factor with a clickwheel-like button?" Okay, so you think it's crappy. Great! "Oh, come on, Microsoft is using a crappy color (literally) to avoid being accused of ripping off the idea of using colors? "And yet they're not afraid to use an iPod form factor with a clickwheel-like button? They own the patent on that anyway. By the way, please tell me why moving the thumb on a touchpad like surface is easier than simply clicking a button? And please don't bring South Park into this!
cuibap (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
wireless, format, play nice with my media center... I just don't like ipod. Period.
shark47
on Sep 28, 2006
"Oh, and please don't compare Bill Gates to Jesus Christ again!" Ummm. I never did. Frankly, I still can't believe why you'd bring in a South Park episode to support an argument. Frankly, and I'm not comparing Bill G to Jesus C here, but have you seen the way they depict Jesus? Would you say that's how most people view Jesus in reality? Come on, it's just a show and although I think it's funny, I definitely wouldn't use that to draw conclusions about public perceptions.
tayme
on Sep 28, 2006
Again...its just a music player...take your pick!!! Let everyone else take their picks...personally, I chose a Samsung Helix - portable Live XM satellite radiw with the ability to record 50 hours in a TiVo like interface. Plus I can flag a song to be downloaded from Napster the next time I sync it with my PC. The biggest downside is that it only has 1GB for music(mp3 or wma), they could have done better with that. Hopefully XM will buy out Napster to keep the interface. Oh, and it don't have a scroll wheel, and I haven't had any issues with browsing through the songs I have. --tayme
Stick (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
"I wish Microsoft would stop trying to enter every single market on the planet, because it fails in so many of them." Really? I have yet to see them failing. Windows is still number 1 on the desktop and is way up there with server OS's. Their Office suite is second to none. Their hardware is spectacular (I'd say that they need to stop putting silly email and media buttons on their keyboards, but nearly every hardware company these days is guilty of that). Their PC games are top of the line and X-box is slowly but surely taking over in the console race. So, again: where is the failure? "Oh, and the obligatory "Brown, WTF?!" remark: Brown, WTF?!" What's wrong with brown? Seriously? Reto is, and always will be, "in". You must hang around with people who shop exclusively at Ikea and drive Beetles - because everyone I know (even die hard iPod owners) think the brown Zune is pretty damn cool. I'd even be willing to bet good money that the brown Zune will be their biggest seller. Sure, MS could have made silver, blue, green, and pink Zunes ... but then they'd get accused of ripping off Apple and blah blah blah.
shark47
on Sep 28, 2006
By the way, South Park pokes fun at Jews and gays. Do you think that represents the general opinion about them in the US?
Preseton
on Sep 28, 2006
@shark47: "Okay, so you think it's crappy. Great!" It was a brown joke. :) "They own the patent on that anyway." No, they don't. "By the way, please tell me why moving the thumb on a touchpad like surface is easier than simply clicking a button?" Um, because having to scroll through a 1,000+ artist list by clicking a holding a button SUCKS when you can use a scroll wheel that has movement acceleration, even for volume control. Stop being disingenuous. That's like asking why using a mouse is better than using a keyboard in Doom. "And please don't bring South Park into this!"" It's hilarious that you guys have latched onto what was a comment on public perceptions of Bill Gates in pop culture. Oh, and please don't compare Bill Gates to Jesus Christ again!
shark47
on Sep 29, 2006
And to think I was trying to reason with him!! Hmmm...
Preseton
on Sep 28, 2006
@sticknick: "Search engines," "They've always had one. I know I used it until Goolge came along and redefined what a search engie was." Actually, for years, MSN Search was drawing its results from Google. "web services," They've always had most of these too. Truth be told of the new stuff, Spaces is pretty damn awesome. And, seriously, what company isn't trying to get into Web services these days?" You asked me about markets Microsoft has failed in. Now you seem to be backing off from that. "cell phones," They haven’t released on yet." Uh, the Smartphone. And it failed. "ultra-mobile PCs," C'mon, NOBODY has got this right yet." Are you talking about buyers? You're right, nobody's buying an oversized tablet PC. By the way, tablet PCs have failed too. "ad serving," They do it just as annoyingly as others." No, Windows Live's ad service has been a failure compared to the very successful Google Adwords. "television," What? You have never used Media Center?" I was talking about IPTV, but you reminded me that Media Center PCs have been a bust as well. "Seriously? Reto is, and always will be, "in" ... everyone I know (even die hard iPod owners) think the brown Zune is pretty damn cool. I'd even be willing to bet good money that the brown Zune will be their biggest seller." I'd be willing to bet you $1,000 that brown will be the least sold Zune color. :) Nobody likes the brown.
Preseton
on Sep 28, 2006
I wish Microsoft would stop trying to enter every single market on the planet, because it fails in so many of them. Even the XBox is a huge money-loser for them. I don't think the "sharing experience" is going to make Zune stand out. When I want to share music with my friends, I just give them copies of the MP3s. People will just think it's lame when their given a song they can only listen to three times. Also, that 3-inch Zune screen is still the same resolution of the iPod--320x240 QVGA. So you won't get increased detail in videos, only bigger pixels. And a fake clickwheel. Oh, and the obligatory "Brown, WTF?!" remark: Brown, WTF?!
Will (not verified)
on Sep 30, 2006
"Has anybody mentioned the crappy battery time you'll get with a wifi-enabled device?" Yeah, I mean my PSP only gets about 8hrs with wifi enabled. I don't know how i make it day to day.
hey (not verified)
on Sep 28, 2006
Microsoft failed with smartphones? Ever hear of the Motorola Q? How about the Treo 700w and 700wx and 750? The MDA and SDA? And just about anything that HTC makes? In many cases, these are all considered best in breed, or are considered very highly. They certainly have not failed here. I don't see Palm making any great strides with their software. And the Symbian and Nokia N-series OS's? Bueller? http://www.engadgetmobile.com/category/windows-mobile/ And besides Media Center, they also make the software for set top boxes for some of the MSO's. And why should a company NOT enter any market where they think that they can make it in? Do you raise a stink when you hear all of the markets that GE is in? Will you raise a stink when Apple enters the cell phone market? Or what business did they have creating an MP3 player anyway? I also don't doubt that some people will be excited about the PS3 and Wii. But, the PS3 is going to have some problems coming to market. That $500 price tag, the delayed availability in Europe, and who knows what else is going to put a dent in the PS3's sales. I love many Sony products, but their performance as of late has been less than spectacular. And are people going to get used to the idea of the "revolutionary" input method? Maybe eventually, but I think that will be a hard sell too. Sony will have to drop the price to be competetive (which I wonder if you will talk about how great the move is, or if you will wonder and talk about how much money they are losing on it). And the Wii is probably going to need a traditional input device to be successful. How well will the Zune sell? I really don't know. I do know, and so does MS, that it will NOT unseat the iPod, and the immediate availability of only one version will certainly slowthe adoption rate. One thing I do know is that MS will put huge amounts of cash behind it, and they seem to be doing the marketing very well so far. Time will tell.

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