Motorola Beats Apple Again in ITC Patent Dispute

The International Trade Commission (ITC) this past week set aside three Apple patent-infringement claims against rival smartphone maker Motorola Mobility. And though this legal defeat is unlikely to change Apple's tactics against the Android horde, it's worth noting that this is the second such defeat Apple's had in as many months.

"The Administrative Law Judge ('ALJ') in the US International Trade Commission (ITC) ruled in favor of Motorola Mobility, finding no violation for any of the three Apple patents listed in Apple's suit," a Motorola press release notes. "The ALJ [found] no violation for any of the three Apple patents listed in Apple's suit."

Apple first sued Motorola Mobility in October 2010, claiming that the latter firm's smartphones—including the Droid, Cliq, and BackFlip, among others—violated three Apple patents. Two of those patents apparently involve touch-screen technologies, and the third concerns a deeper OS-level technology.

At the time, Motorola Mobility counter-sued, alleging that Apple was infringing on at least 18 of its patents, some of which are related to networking technologies, antenna design, sensors, and device synchronization.

Although the Motorola Mobility claims have yet to be tested, Apple's defeat at the hands of an ITC judge last week now stands on the record. Apple previously lost a similar patent-infringement claim against Motorola with the ITC, this time in Germany, in December 2011. ITC rulings are important because they can affect the import and export of products into various countries. But they're also drawn out long enough that the offending companies can typically modify their products enough to escape an actual sales ban.

Motorola Mobility, of course, owns a vast mobile-industry patent portfolio. This is the chief reason Android maker Google offered $12.5 billion to purchase the firm in August. 

"We are pleased with today's favorable outcome for Motorola Mobility," said Scott Offer, the company's senior vice president and general counsel. "Motorola Mobility has worked hard over the years to develop technology and build an industry-leading intellectual property portfolio. We are proud to leverage this broad and deep portfolio to create differentiated innovations that enhance the user experience."

Like Microsoft, Apple has chosen to aggressively defend its own patent portfolio against Android handset makers, but unlike Microsoft, Apple has generally ignored the possibility of obtaining licensing pacts with its rivals and has instead attempted to ban the sales of their devices in numerous countries around the world. Aside from some temporary setbacks for Samsung, these efforts have been largely unsuccessful to date. Microsoft, meanwhile, recently celebrated its 11th Android-based patent licensee and now claims that over 70 percent of all Android devices sold are "receiving coverage" under Microsoft's patent portfolio. The software giant is widely believed to receive a $5 to $10 payment for each Android device sold.

Discuss this Article 38

jersey72
on Jan 17, 2012
R- It is that Draconian.
infiniteloop
on Jan 19, 2012
tayme: Please try to overcome your denial. http://m.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apples-corporate-iphone-ipad-app-strength-bad-news-for-rivals/52758 You might like to refer to the word 'lead' where the article fetes to tablets in the enterprise. I'd call that strong.
infiniteloop
on Jan 18, 2012
Aww tayme. That was poor. Even by your standards.
scottm99999
on Jan 18, 2012
@infiniteloop, I agree with you in principle. However, if you don't work in I/T, then you don't understand the programmer's point of view (no insult intended). Companies have finite resources, and if those resources are spent investigating whether or not some patent is violated leaves less for innovation. As I mentioned earlier, both sides need a better understanding of one another.
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 18, 2012
@infiniteloop - That speaks to rising, which we agree upon. Strong is entirely different. Maybe you should look it up. You seem a bit slow today.
scottm99999
on Jan 17, 2012
I feel sorry for programmers working for software development firms (particularly small software firms). Do these businesses have a team of lawyers go over designs & code to keep from infringing on patents?!? How is innovation even possible when a programmer always has to be looking over his/her shoulder (so to speak), afraid that some idea/design/code has been patented? I'm assuming this is the worst-case scenario, but perhaps things aren't as draconian as I think.
infiniteloop
on Jan 18, 2012
@tayme: Excellent news. Glad to hear you're open to the changes that are now taking place in the enterprise. It's taken a while for you to agree that Apple now has a strong and increasing presence in business. Well done!
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 17, 2012
@infiniteloop - Nice try at avoiding my question about your opinion of Apple copying Google as pointed out at the URL that I posted earlier. But you've failed yet again.
infiniteloop
on Jan 19, 2012
OK tayme: I'm done with this too. It's obvious to all here now that you just make things up to suit your purpose. I always back up my arguments with facts. You're a bigger Troll than I.
infiniteloop
on Jan 19, 2012
Typo: Fetes = refers.
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 18, 2012
@infiniteloop - I had a feeling that you would have a soft response. After all, it's the love of your life that my question was about. This concludes the consistency check. You may now return to your regularly scheduled trolling.
infiniteloop
on Jan 19, 2012
tayme: The only attempt I'm aware Apple has made at back end solutions is with Servers. Would you care to enlighten us on all the others?
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 16, 2012
@Meh - Exactly!
infiniteloop
on Jan 17, 2012
So tayme: Are you saying that it's OK to copy and there's no need for an incentive to innovate? How very Microsoftian.
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 19, 2012
@infiniteloop - I'll respond to your manic volley of questions, then I am finished with this discussion. You just don't get IT and should stick to what you do claim to know. My issue is not with the facts...it is with people like you, that try to deny them at every possible opportunity. Yes, Apple leads in the tablet market, both consumer and business. That is obvious to everyone. That does not equate to "a strong presence in business". That is one, presently very small, segment of the business environment. Regarding Apple's back-end solutions...how did the servers work out? Here's another one for you Xsan - http://www.apple.com/xsan/ - Not really growing or strong in either of those. Some people understand that there are better and different solutions for different situations that do not involve Apple. Then there is infiniteloop. Like I said - I have the ability to choose what works best in a given situation - regardless of who the product is developed or marketed by.
jersey72
on Jan 16, 2012
And as always the winners are........... The lawyers!!! And I thought the dollar figure Microsoft got from Android phones was closer to the $25 mark.
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 17, 2012
@infiniteloop - Consistency check...What is your opinion on Apple copying Google here? - http://www.imore.com/2012/01/16/apple-adds-itunes-features-app-pages-copies-android-process/ @R - Obviously, a non-IT person would not understand...as proven.
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 18, 2012
@R - That is further evidence that the system is broken. I do not condone blatant stealing another's work...but as you said, the independent or small developement houses do not have resources to traverse such a mucked up mess.
infiniteloop
on Jan 19, 2012
tayme: Perhaps you could answer the question?
infiniteloop
on Jan 19, 2012
tayme: Perhaps this may help you. http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/10/04/92-of-the-fortune-500-companies-are-testing-or-deploying-ipad/
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 18, 2012
@infiniteloop - I've repeatedly said that Apple has a increasing presence in business. I would disagree that it is strong when comparing to its competitors in that space like Cisco, HP, Brocade, Sun, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, and even Red Hat.
infiniteloop
on Jan 19, 2012
@R: No problem. Perhaps you might explain it to tayme. He seems to have some issues.
scottm99999
on Jan 17, 2012
@infiniteloop, I don't think it's as simplistic as that. Since you post here, I assume you're a tech, system admin, programmer, or work in I/T in some capacity; so you understand how software is written. There's only so many ways to interact with a program, or write a user interface. I don't see how a small software business can release a product without stepping on patents somewhere...since it seems darn near everything is patented.
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 19, 2012
@infiniteloop - You can continue to change the subject if you'd like. The fact is that your comment was "Apple now has a strong and increasing presence in business." I agreed on the "increasing" and still disagree on the "strong". Will they get there? Probably. But to say that they are stronger in the business world than the companies that I mentioned, and others, is an untruth. Your argument will be that Apple does not care about the back-end solutions. I think that you are wrong. They do care, they just can't compete. This has been proven in every attempt for them to get into those types of solutions. Apple makes great consumer electronics and desktop/laptop computers. They provide stellar consumer support(excluding the "Genius Bar" which is a sales thing more than a support thing). The companies that I mentioned make great back-end and infrastructure products. They provide stellar support to the support teams, but the sales process is a mess. These back-end and infrastructure solutions are much more important than what the end user is touching in the eyes of most CEOs. The client machines can be swapped out, nearly at will. Not so much for the back-end and infrastructure devices. From what I've described above, most people would be able to see that there is room in the world for all of these companies and that they all serve the needs of consumers and business pretty much equally. Why a person would choose to nearly worship one of them and their late CEO is odd.
scottm99999
on Jan 19, 2012
@infiniteloop, I believe I understand your viewpoint better now. Thanks for the discussion.
infiniteloop
on Jan 17, 2012
Surely a programmer is aware of 'prior art' and therefore understands what to keep away from.
MSTAYLOR
on Jan 18, 2012
Not sure why you think that I need cheered up...I am very happy! Regarding your link - That poses no problems for me...I and my teams are perfectly capability of supporting whatever is needed. I've explained that to you before - you don't seem to get that. Maybe that is because you are a one trick pony and you think that is normal...I'm not sure.
infiniteloop
on Jan 18, 2012
tayme: Why do you keep repeating yourself? I have said before that if Google, Samsung, HTC, et Al. decide that Apple is in contravention of any of their Patents, then Apple can expect a lawsuit. If found in contravention, Apple will have to innovate around the issue, as Samsung gas been forced to when it was found in contravention of Apple's Patents. That's how the Patent system works. But seriously. Tabs? I haven't heard of any lawsuits against Apple over either of these issues (I assume you're still banging on about 'Notification Centre'), so we can assume that none of these companies think Apple is in contravention. Now. How about answering some of my questions?
infiniteloop
on Jan 18, 2012
tayme: Which of those companies is increasing its enterprise market share faster than Apple?
scottm99999
on Jan 18, 2012
I'm going to generalize here and say that people who make their living by the patent system think it's fine, and techs like me, who don't understand how seemingly basic software design principles are patented. Both sides don't understand one another. Perhaps I need more understanding of the patent system, but, frankly, I think the legal-ese would scare me :) Infiniteloop, in what area of I/T do you work?
infiniteloop
on Jan 17, 2012
Hey tayme: Didn't they have your size of functional but totally unstylish pants at Walmart today? Why else are you so moody?
infiniteloop
on Jan 16, 2012
Actually we're all losers. If you can copy, you have dont have to INNOVATE.
jersey72
on Jan 19, 2012
Yeah, tayme. Stop making up facts. Stop pointing out that Apple only has two footholds in the enterprise - tablets and phones. Ignore everything else, like desktops, infrastructure, and well, every server product. See - once you do that, they're strong. Don't you get it? :-)
infiniteloop
on Jan 18, 2012
@R: I don't work in IT. I'm involved in trend tracking, product development and futurology. As a result I'm involved in copyright issues which are similar to the Patent system. I know full well that if design and innovation are allowed to be copied, the incentive to innovate again dries up. That's why I'm in full support of the Patent system.
infiniteloop
on Jan 17, 2012
@R: Exactly. The Patent system is, therefore, a strong driver of innovation and thinking differently.
infiniteloop
on Jan 18, 2012
@R: It's exactly the same for designers and new product development. Finite resources and small design studios. The difference is designers hate to rip off other designers' IP. And also hate to be ripped off. As a result, the copyright system is honoured and respected. Pity the same cannot be said in the world of IT.
infiniteloop
on Jan 18, 2012
tayme: A little something to cheer your mood. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203721704577156704148493394.html
infiniteloop
on Jan 19, 2012
@Meh: Brilliant!

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