Microsoft in Last-Ditch Effort to Avoid Further EU Fines

On Monday, the European Union (EU) reported that Microsoft had submitted a batch of documentation required to comply with the antitrust ruling against the software maker. The EU's European Commission (EC), which oversees antitrust concerns in Europe, is looking over the documentation to see if it meets the requirements. Microsoft has failed several times to submit documentation that satisfies the EC.

"We have received technical documents from Microsoft," an EC spokesperson said early Monday. "Our people are looking at it, including the \[technical\] trustee, and it's too early at this stage to give any indication of whether there will be another payment, another penalty, and if there is to be another penalty, how much it would be."

According to Microsoft, the submission amounts to more than 2600 documents and should demonstrate the company's ongoing commitment to comply fully with the EU's ruling. "We are working with the \[EU's\] trustee to ensure that all of this documentation meets his requirements and to respond promptly and fully to any further requests for information," a statement issued by Microsoft reads.

Earlier in July, the EU fined Microsoft nearly $356 million for failing to comply with the 2004 antitrust ruling. Microsoft's submission needs to meet the requirements of the final point of compliance contention. Otherwise, the EU has threatened to fine Microsoft almost $4 million each day until the company complies.

Microsoft has several pending appeals in its EU antitrust saga. It's appealing the original ruling and has said it will also appeal the recent $356 million fine.

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guruguru
on Jul 31, 2006
bonch, that figure only includes "retail" sales. it excludes corporate sales. essentially if a guy buys a dell, it counts towards the figure, but if a company buys 200 dell notebooks it doesn't. thus the figure is rigged. apples true marketshare is not 12%.
Preston (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
With Apple's 12% U.S. notebook marketshare, as well as Microsoft's recent disastrous voice recognition demo in front of investors, it's nothing but bad news for this dying relic from the 90s. There's already talk of another Vista delay. By the time it comes out, it'll already be obsolete. Check out this amazing work done by an artist who exclusively uses Mac. Windows wouldn't be able to handle this work: www.apple.com/pro/profiles/takagi/
yahoo
on Jul 31, 2006
"Bonch may be a jerk, but he's an endless source of amusement." I agree. He's like a spoilt 15 year old kid. And it's always fun to watch them throw tantrums as long as you're not the parent.
tayme
on Jul 31, 2006
"With Apple's 12% U.S. notebook marketshare..." You know, bonch may be on to something with that 12% marketshare number...a lot of the county is under heat advisories and if you can use each one as an electric frying pan how much heat would that generate??? ...you never know!!! ;-) --tayme
hey (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
bonch, that artists work is great and all, but I seriously doubt that it couldn't be done on another platform. You have no knowledge as to what the capabilities of any other platform are. And, you forget to add this little tidbit of information: he uses Final Cut Studio, which sets you back a cool $1,299 retail.
shark47
on Jul 31, 2006
"Hey, be honest...if it weren't for all the "bonchisms" on this site, Paul's readership would be down" Maybe Paul Thurrott himself posts messages as bonch to get the number of hits up. Just kidding!!!
jersey72
on Jul 31, 2006
while(bonch.IsPosting) { me.IgnoreCommentsSection(); }
objective (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
I bought my first iPod last weekend (for my wife). Wow! They sure do make a pretty product all the way down to the packaging. Very slick. However, I personally hated the navigation wheel (Nano). Also, I find WMP11 beta to work MUCH better with my little Creative Zen. I haven't yet tried the stupid Urge because I hate all forms of DRM (although I imagine my wife will not want to use iTunes which means I will have to burn and rip every song she buys back into MP3).
hey (not verified)
on Aug 1, 2006
"HE JUST LIED" Hmmm, bonch used this same reasoning for dropped features in Vista. And no, MS didn't lie about it. It's called a product announcement. But, I realize that bonch has no knowledge of what product announcements are, since the company that he chooses to sleep with is so secretive that until it's actually available in stores is when you will actually see the product. Not a way to foster corporate buying. Have fun saving up for Final Cut Studio!
lotsamystuff
on Aug 1, 2006
"My response: “Ok, what exactly did he lie about?”" Oh, please. Throw me another softball: http://www.failureisimpossible.com/needtoknow/lies.htm http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/bushlies1.html http://www.bushlies.net/index.html
jersey72
on Jul 31, 2006
Ok, I just can't resist posting this to see if bonch actually responds... :-) http://news.com.com/Users+mock+Apple+slogan+during+.Mac+outage/2100-1041_3-6100426.html?tag=nefd.top or http://tinyurl.com/m8xfw
Orion (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
If you didn't see this guy's work last time, it is pretty neat. "www.apple.com/pro/profiles/takagi/" Bonch, we can't stop you from posting, but could you not post the same thing multiple times? We gotta live with you, but will you at least post stuff only once and not on multiple articles?
Loiosh dé (not verified)
on Aug 1, 2006
@NateB2 Oh, I didn't realize that about Vista. If I was up for the two-day download for the DVD ISO I might be tempted to try it. =)
Darcy (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
Since everyone is not going to ignore him I might as well join the fray... Apple has one device in several form factors that is keeping them afloat... it is the iPod. Any sort of PC sales boost that they have been receiving of late will be negated as soon as the Zune player is released and the iPod dies an inevitably quick death. It is ironic that bonch talks about how Microsoft is dying because their failure to keep up with the pace of change... this is the exact same issue that is going to kill the iPod. Apple hasn't made any significant changes to the iPod since it came out. iPod photo? big deal. iPod video? yawn. Their notebooks MAY stick around a little longer since they make a great cooking device or emergency heater if you get caught in a snowstorm. And MAYBE someone will by their desktops since they will be able to run Vista on them once Apple abondons OSWhatever due to lack of sales. If there is anything that is slipping into irrelevance it is Apple. Luckily they won't have far to fall... they have been teetering there for a long long long time.
Nathan (not verified)
on Aug 1, 2006
2nd correction: www.bushlies.net
Preston (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
"bonch, that artists work is great and all, but I seriously doubt that it couldn't be done on another platform. You have no knowledge as to what the capabilities of any other platform are." 100% wrong. You obviously don't know what industry I'm in. "And, you forget to add this little tidbit of information: he uses Final Cut Studio, which sets you back a cool $1,299 retail." Not Final Cut Express. Face it, PC users. You're in denial about the downward spiral of Microsoft and its crappy, horribly, endlessly delayed operating system.
Nathan (not verified)
on Aug 1, 2006
Uh... lotsa, this is a *IT* forum, not a political forum. I could post rebuttals to every single one of your sources, but since this is a Windows forum, I will refrain. Needless to say, facts can be interpreted different ways; your sources were obviously biased towards the left (www.bushlies.com isn't exactly objective). Like I said above, I could post sources that directly contradict your sources that are biased in the other direction (the "right" direction :-). The truth is, we will never really know what happened until years later. ----- Lets see - the article was about Microsoft writing documentation to please the EU and somehow the topic changed to Bush lying. Talk about off-topic!
shark47
on Jul 31, 2006
Correction: EVERY SINGLE POST?
Nathan (not verified)
on Aug 1, 2006
correction: www.buslies.NET
yahoo
on Aug 1, 2006
"Oh, please. Throw me another softball" Bush was probably misled by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. I don't think he lied. He was simply unaware of the truth.
shark47
on Jul 31, 2006
"[Microsoft is] a dying relic from the 90s." Damn sure we can't stop bonch, but what the heck is up with this "dying relic" s h i t? He posts it once or twice, it's okay, but not EVERY SINGLE POST! Big companies don't die. Intel has bounced back against AMD. Whatever analysts say, Microsoft will bounce back. And, the EU case is not going to go on forever. It will be resolved one day.
Christopher
on Jul 31, 2006
"will you at least post stuff only once and not on multiple articles?" Didn't you just tell me that reasoning with him was pointless? :D I have no clue why the Penton Media folks don't ban his account, IP, and any new accounts he tries to create. He makes a mockery of their publication. He's being a twit (I'd use stronger language if it weren't filtered), he knows he is a twit; ergo he has no intention of ever going away and leaving the group of rational professionals to have a *relevant* discussion. He would be perfectly happy if he chases everyone else away and gets carte blanche to post repetitive, and completely irrelevant, sewage to every item posted. The worst part is the news software should contain our ability to forcibly ignore him, or at least some sort of rating system. Daily Tech has that. There is a default "threshold" of 1 on articles. If you get voted below that rating by your peers, your postings will never appear to anyone unless each visitor manually lowers their threshold setting (on every article I believe). They also have some nice safeguards in place so that one person can't effectively sink everyone else's ratings. If you're going to solicit feedback from readers, do it properly, or just shut off the feature so as not to diminish the publication. At least that's my opinion on how feedback should be handled. In some sick way his behavior encourages "participation", but if I were the publication, I wouldn't want to be associated with actively trying to foster that.
lotsamystuff
on Aug 1, 2006
"My response: “Ok, what exactly did he lie about?”" Oh, please. Throw me another softball: http://www.failureisimpossible.com/needtoknow/lies.htm http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/bushlies1.html http://www.bushlies.net/index.html
lotsamystuff
on Jul 31, 2006
"I have no clue why the Penton Media folks don't ban his account, IP, and any new accounts he tries to create. He makes a mockery of their publication. He's being a twit (I'd use stronger language if it weren't filtered), he knows he is a twit; ergo he has no intention of ever going away and leaving the group of rational professionals to have a *relevant* discussion. He would be perfectly happy if he chases everyone else away and gets carte blanche to post repetitive, and completely irrelevant, sewage to every item posted." You know, you shouldn't talk about Paul Thurrott like that! (I'm kidding! Really!) Hey, be honest...if it weren't for all the "bonchisms" on this site, Paul's readership would be down, his article ratings wouldn't be as high, and your daily reads wouldn't be as much fun. Bonch may be a jerk, but he's an endless source of amusement. One of the Mac boards I frequent banned a Windows troll a while back, and it got really boring really fast. Let bonchy rant...he's only hurting his own "cause" anyway. ------ Image refreshes: Only Two!
Nathan (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
"I'm, as sad as it sounds, looking forward to Vista. " You and me both! I have had an excellent experience with Vista. In case you do not know, the product keys for Vista Beta 2 work in all the later builds. If you do not know a beta tester who can let you "borrow" a later build, you can always download via BitTorrent. Like I said above, the latest build is absolutely *amazing* in terms of performance. "And I hate to take it this route but it reminds me of many a conversation I’ve had with someone screaming “BUSH LIED”. My response: “Ok, what exactly did he lie about?” (Spittle dribbling with hatred apparent in eyes) “HE JUST LIED…DARN WARMONGER”. " Me too! I have found that the more people are emotionally invested in a subject, the less chance you will have of having a logical debate. It either ends in a flame war, or the person becomes offended.
hey (not verified)
on Aug 1, 2006
"100% wrong. You obviously don't know what industry I'm in" Care to enlighten us? How could I know, you have never told us. I don't think that I'm 100% wrong. Some very competent software is available for Windows (and Linux BTW) that will perform the tasks at hand. In fact, Adobe has some very good software available on the Mac and Windows. "Not Final Cut Express." But, that artist used Final Cut Studio. You know, when you spend more money on software, you tend to get more professional grade. I'm sure that Final Cut Studio and a slew of other video software is available that will do pro work, but will cost pro money. What do you give up in Final Cut Express? Doesn't it at that point become more prosumer or consumer level? See you in line for the new Chocolate phone!
Nathan (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
Since everyone is veering off-topic, I might as well mention this. I have been running Vista build 5472 for over a week now, and comparing my experience with others, I can confirm that applications load/respond on average *10%* FASTER in Vista than XP. Since Microsoft still has debugging code/stack tracers, etc. still running, some analysts have put forth that if this performance increase continues, applications will run up to *40%* faster in Vista than XP. That is not applicable to games, which will run AT LEAST 50% faster in Vista than XP. Those are some impressive numbers! It just goes to show that vista is not "XP SR3 eye-candy edition." If it proves to be true, then a huge majority of people will be interested in upgrading to Vista.
Loiosh dé (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
I thought I would provide information to educate the readers here. During the artistic video a list of software that is required to create a 'moving' painting is mentioned. Takagi mentions: Final Cut Pro (Mac only), Photoshop, Logic Pro (mac only), and Adobe After Effects. To assist this troll I offered the price list of software components: Final Cut Pro: $1,300 Adobe Photoshop: $650 Adobe After Effects: $1,000 Logic Pro: $1,000 Mac total: $3,950 And then the Windows equivelents (or in Audition's case, superiors) Adobe Premier: $850 Adobe Photoshop: $650 Adobe After Effects: $1,000 Adobe Audition (formally Cool Edit Pro): $349 Windows total: $2,850 Now, Mr. Bosh mentioned above that Final Cut Express was used. Assuming that is the case: $2,950. So yes, you can do it on a PC, for cheaper, as always. You may wish to research your facts before posting here in the future.
ggolcher
on Jul 31, 2006
I like bonch. His useless drivel makes me laugh. :)
levesda
on Jul 31, 2006
Christopher, I agree 100% with what you said but I doubt that Penton Media folks are reading our feedback. What would work better is if we all band together and petition them to ban Bonch by sending them e-mails at subs@windowsitpro.com or contact their Customer Service "complaints" department at http://www.windowsitpro.com/AboutUs/CustomerService/Index.cfm?action=CustomerService. If we all do this together, maybe we can be heard!
tayme
on Jul 31, 2006
"100% wrong. You obviously don't know what industry I'm in." Please tell us...thus far you have avoided answering exactly that question everytime you have been asked. Describe your job to us, also...give us a reason to believe that you are anything but a 15 year old brat using Mom and Dad's new Mac mini during your summer vacation. "Not Final Cut Express" And what was used to create the examples that you linked to?
Nathan (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
"I'm, as sad as it sounds, looking forward to Vista. " You and me both! I have had an excellent experience with Vista. In case you do not know, the product keys for Vista Beta 2 work in all the later builds. If you do not know a beta tester who can let you "borrow" a later build, you can always download via BitTorrent. Like I said above, the latest build is absolutely *amazing* in terms of performance. "And I hate to take it this route but it reminds me of many a conversation I’ve had with someone screaming “BUSH LIED”. My response: “Ok, what exactly did he lie about?” (Spittle dribbling with hatred apparent in eyes) “HE JUST LIED…DARN WARMONGER”. " Me too! I have found that the more people are emotionally invested in a subject, the less chance you will have of having a logical debate. It either ends in a flame war, or the person becomes offended.
shark47
on Jul 31, 2006
"Any sort of PC sales boost that they have been receiving of late will be negated as soon as the Zune player is released..." I don't know about Zune, but Vista will probably affect Mac sales.
Dave (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
"disastrous voice recognition demo" Actually, Dragon Naturally Speaking 9 has remarkable recognition rates that runs only on a PC. Nuance does not plan to do a Mac version due to "poor performance".
Dave (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
"www.apple.com/pro/profiles/takagi/" Aarrrg! It uses SlowTime.
objective (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
"I imagine my wife will not want to use iTunes" Correction: WILL want to
lotsamystuff
on Jul 31, 2006
"Apple has one device in several form factors that is keeping them afloat... it is the iPod. Any sort of PC sales boost that they have been receiving of late will be negated as soon as the Zune player is released and the iPod dies an inevitably quick death." Huh? What do CPU sales have to do with the iPod? Y'all keep saying there is no "halo effect", so I don't understand your point.
hey (not verified)
on Aug 1, 2006
"Me too! I have found that the more people are emotionally invested in a subject, the less chance you will have of having a logical debate. It either ends in a flame war, or the person becomes offended." Exactly, but I see lotsa also gets pulled in to this nonsense. Lotsa, just like bonch, you quote sources that are obviously skewed in a particular direction. Not the best source for information, neither pro nor con. I expected much better from you, lotsa. Of course, the funny thing about this entire discussion is I don't even think one post was on-topic. I really wish we could all find a decent forum that we can "talk" all day long on. See you all on line in housewares for that skillet called the MacBook Pro!
Christopher
on Jul 31, 2006
"One of the Mac boards I frequent banned a Windows troll a while back, and it got really boring really fast. Let bonchy rant...he's only hurting his own "cause" anyway." I would agree regarding participation, but I think it would actually decline readership. Sure their hit count might go up, because the people here come back to follow up on comments, but we don't read the article more than once. Personally I let his behavior slide until one day awhile back... The OpenOffice director of marketing posted a rebuttal to Paul's news items. Instead of having an insightful discussion about that, there were the typical 5 pages of Apple garbage that had no bearing on anything. The guy's comments were lost under a deluge of swill. I compare bonch's behavior to painting a school building with graffiti. The "artist" is a jerk, but the school is no better for not removing the mess or trying to prevent the problem to begin with. I'm not a "subscriber" per se, but I do regularly buy their magazines during my monthly trips to B&N and Borders. Basically I peruse the mags and pick them up whenever there is something decent to have in the office. Generally I don't like subscriptions because trying to get rid of them is like trying to exit the mafia. On the bright side I can let the WSJ stew for a bit and they eventually send me an offer that's 80% off the newsstand price. :)
Christopher
on Jul 31, 2006
"You obviously don't know what industry I'm in." Oh, oh, let me guess!!! High school. Am I right? How about this... Start treating everyone here and our careers with respect commensurate to our accomplishments*, and we'll stop thinking you're a teenager who has nothing better to do than be disrespectful to people a decade or two older. You do that, and amazingly, people might start to take you seriously. * This includes not slandering our choice of tools and refraining from personal attacks because no one here classified as a "Windows IT Pro" agrees with your opinion.
lotsamystuff
on Aug 1, 2006
"Lets see - the article was about Microsoft writing documentation to please the EU and somehow the topic changed to Bush lying. Talk about off-topic!" LOL...coming from the guy who started it. Funny.
Loiosh dé (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
I'm, as sad as it sounds, looking forward to Vista. At home I've remained on Windows 2000 for my primary machine while trying out quite a few others, (Ubuntu, Gentoo, Mandrake, OS X). I eventually took Ubuntu as my secondary OS for use when I am not home while Vista (Beta 2) is my play OS. XP I dislike for some reason despite using it and Red Hat 9 exclusively at work.
objective (not verified)
on Jul 31, 2006
“How about this... Start treating everyone here and our careers with respect commensurate to our accomplishments*, and we'll stop thinking you're a teenager who has nothing better to do than be disrespectful to people a decade or two older. You do that, and amazingly, people might start to take you seriously.” A decade or two….ouch. =) I’m so glad that I went the Commodore – 8088 – 286 route instead of Apple II’s. It is hard for me to imagine spouting off 20 years ago about how the Amiga’s were the new design and Commodore was the wave of the future. So if I get this correctly, a company that is not even in the Fortune 100 is going to unseat Microsoft who apparently beat-out lazy IBM (and yet somehow still manages to have more than twice the revenue as Microsoft) despite Microsoft’s majority install base and being listed as a top company to work for (sorry didn’t see Apple there to compare against). http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/employers/ You could even respect someone who tempered his dislike with reality. “Windows Vista has had many delays, features removed and negative publicity. I think this may hurt their market position and allow for a competitor like Linux or Apple to step in” instead of “MICROSOFT IS DYING!”. And I hate to take it this route but it reminds me of many a conversation I’ve had with someone screaming “BUSH LIED”. My response: “Ok, what exactly did he lie about?” (Spittle dribbling with hatred apparent in eyes) “HE JUST LIED…DARN WARMONGER”. Unfortunately civil discourse is simply impossible with some.

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