Giving Microsoft Your Feedback About Windows 8

Send Microsoft your feedback now about Windows 8, before the window of opportunity closes

There's a new OS on the horizon. How do you know? The twaddle in the Twitterverse. "Metro sucks." "Win 8 will totally ROCK!" The part that particularly befuddles me, however, are two tweets emanating from audience members while I recently delivered my Windows 8 overview talk to about a thousand people in Las Vegas early this November: "Minasi says Win 8 is the best Windows ever" and "Minasi is totally TRASHING Windows 8...." Sigh; tell me again why Web 2.0 was going to make things better?

Seriously, there's a new Windows on the way, and it changes things a lot -- so it's no surprise that many long-time Windows users will have some strongly held opinions. What's more, it seems that Microsoft is listening to at least some of those opinions, so if you've got 'em, share 'em . . . but permit me to offer a suggestion or two to keep in mind when voicing those opinions, advice from someone who's been following Microsoft public betas since the DOS 2.0 beta in the early 1980s. (Someone who's still disappointed that the final version only put 360K of data on the 5.25" floppies, instead of the 400K ones the early beta offered.)

First, don't bother blogging about how completely crazy and wrongheaded you think Windows 8 is, even if, ahem, you could be at least partially right. The Win 8 choo-choo is barreling down the tracks, and it's not going to stop. If you're thinking of opining something like "If the new Server Manager is really generating PowerShell commands under its GUI hood, why doesn't it show us the PowerShell commands to help us discover things about the 2,300 PowerShell cmdlets Windows 8 includes and how to use them to better automate our systems?" then that might get someone's attention. On the other hand, if you're demanding that Microsoft scrap Metro, well, Microsoft listens, but not quite that much. (Hey, does Apple ask you what you'd like to see in new versions of iOS, as in "Do you really want a very basic multitasking ability on your iPhone 3G, even if it does make your iPhone run painfully slowly?" If you own an iPhone, I'm guessing you know the answer.)

Second, don't worry too much about the people who say that it's somehow "not fair" to comment on the currently available Developer Preview version of Windows 8, often called a "pre-beta." People can call this a pre-beta, but it's not, at least not by the standard of pre-Windows 7 systems. We first saw Windows 7 and R2 in November 2008, and if I recall correctly we'd only gotten one official beta and one release candidate before a release-to-manufacturing in August 2009. I can't think of a previous version of Windows in which we only got two pre-RTM looks, but honestly Windows 7 was really nothing more than a 1.1 version of Windows Vista, so it didn't seem all that odd -- and Windows 7/R2 was a big hit, so no one complained. Windows 8, however, is a quite different story. Server 8's long list of what can basically be summed up as "higher availability, lower cost" features and Desktop 8's all-new Metro platform add up to some very significant changes to Windows. It seems odd, then, that the Windows team plans to only give us three previews before RTM-ing Windows 8, so from my point of view the Developer Preview should be seen as either a beta 1 or beta 2, and I see nothing out-of-bounds about anyone offering a well-researched opinion. (I should note that it's unfair, however, to talk much about Windows 8 performance based on the Developer Preview. Performance tuning always comes much later in the development cycle.)

Third, understand that if you do have a well-thought-out suggestion, now -- or very soon -- might possibly be the only time period in which anyone in Redmond will even look at it. My guess is that if the Windows folks think that one Windows 8 beta and one release candidate is fine (as it was with Windows 7/R2), then releasing Windows 8 in August is fine (as it was with Windows 7/R2). Again, it seems to me that's a little ambitious, given how big a change Windows 8 is over Windows 7/R2, but I don't run the show.

Assuming I'm right, then, let me pass along a data point that backs up why I think the "Microsoft is still listening" window will close fairly soon. Back in February 2009, I talked with some folks in a Microsoft product group -- sorry, an NDA prevents me from naming them or the group -- who wanted to make a fairly cosmetic change to a piece of a wizard in Windows. I had a small stake in the change, so watched the whole thing unfold with high hopes, only to hear in early March that they were told, "Sorry, too late for a change like that; we're locking things down so we'll be ready in August." That doesn't surprise me, because Windows is a complex software project and holding the number of bugs down to a reasonable level necessitates some long lead times on lockdown. It does, however, lead me to believe that if you think my summer 2012 RTM date guess is reasonable, then so is my early March lockdown guess.

Anyway, the bottom line is this: If something Windows 8-ish sticks in your craw, now is the time to pass along your ideas, whether in your blog, as comments to the "Building Windows 8" blog, or whatever other means presents itself. As always, avoid spittle-flecked diatribes and review whatever you're writing a few times -- hey, presentation counts! -- and don't worry if someone flames you for being a "hater." (If I could just remove the words "fanboy" and "hater" from online discussions everywhere, the world would be soooo much better, you know?) And if someone says you're being unfair for talking about a not completely baked OS, well, just point them to this column.

Until next month, happy holiday shopping, all!

Discuss this Article 5

tazjeep2001
on Nov 22, 2011
I am just getting started with 8. Some things that I "assume" will be changed would the process of DCPROMO'ing while adding DNS. I had to go back and add the DNS Snap-in through the RSAT tools option. Again, I assume that was a glitch in the matrix and will be corrected. I also would like to see a power-off button. Yes, I know the joke of why do I need to click the start button to shut down, but again, both on the desktop and server, it's dumb not to have an intuitive way to shutdown...or is there? I do the 3 finger salute. Also, really Microsoft, I have to restart STILL after I change my computer name for the first time? Dare to dream I suppose. Not a huge fan of the metro server manager either. Would love a "classic" option. Love the PowerShell command cheats though. Great article Mark!!! My students love your books!
rmikowski
on Apr 6, 2012
I am not a fan of this new look. My desktop is not a tablet or phone and I dont wish to convert it. The interface is very messy and childlike. Windows 8 where is the classic look?
witp@aaronsuzuki.com
on Nov 23, 2011
I think an important thing for all of us to keep in mind is that none of what is in Win8 is accidental. There are thousands of hours and millions of dollars in research and usability studies that have gone into creating everything you see. While to each of us it might occur as not perfect, the design and experience is informed by tons of learning - both from experience and being the market leader in end-user operating system software and the years and millions of customers and their input, but also in net-new research to determine what is going to work best for people in this new product. That doesn't mean they'll get everything right, but I believe there is an earnest interest in making a great product ideal for end users and wonderfully manageable (although I feel like the latter is usually playing second fiddle to the former...). P.S. I think a 2012 RTM for Win8 is not at all realistic and a summer 2012 RTM is downright crazy. When does anything ever ship on time? It's going to be Q1 2013 at the earliest.
LightStar
on Mar 1, 2012
Just joined the site because I have to say this, Windows 8 is great for a cellphone or a tablet, but it is absolutely useless as a desktop UI. I have been in IT since 1974 and have been a loyal Microsoft customer. I am a TechNet member and a Microsoft Partner, but I will never download nor use Windows 8 in its present state. You want to hear what a lot of people, people that know how to make a UI look good are saying about Windows 8? Have a look at this: http://forums.wincustomize.com/418854/page/1/#replies Have a nice day, welcome to another Windows ME/Vista.
bill43
on Mar 17, 2013

Windows Surface Pro 8 user. Love Windows 8.
However, why, when the industry is standardizing charging plugs, did Microsoft pull a Steve Jobs and introduce a propriatary and clumsy power plug? I am 74 and my hands are not as nimble as they used to be. I have a struggle each time I plug in to charge the Pro 8.

I understood how to use Skype. Now, with the Microsoft version, I am lost. Where is HELP? How do I load my contacts into Skype? Under old Skype, SKYPE to SKYPE calls were free. What is the current policy?

I served as a Senior Naval Aviation Training Analyst for 20 years. During that time we held Microsoft HELP up as an ideal form of "just in time training." If you are not publishing a manual, we need HELP.

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