Microsoft announced today that it plans to support Really Simple Syndication (RSS) technology in Longhorn, the upcoming next-generation Windows OS, and in Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) 7.0, the standalone browser upgrade that will ship later this year. RSS lets users subscribe to the Web-based content that they enjoy, freeing them from having to manually browse the same sites again and again.
"Like searching, RSS subscriptions are an evolution of Web browsing, not a replacement," Gary Schare, director of strategic product management in the Windows Division, told me earlier this week. "We're making a major RSS investment in Longhorn and will integrate the technology throughout the OS."
Longhorn will feature RSS technologies in three key areas. First, the IE 7.0 Web browser in Longhorn will make it easy to discover RSS feeds (i.e., Web sites that offer syndicated, or subscription-based, versions of their content), then view and subscribe to those feeds. Second, Microsoft will add pervasive APIs directly to Longhorn so that developers can take advantage of RSS in their own applications. Third, the company will create a new set of RSS extensions, called Simple List Extensions, that will make it easier for Web sites to publish as RSS feeds lists such as music playlists or top 10 lists.
IE 7.0's RSS features seem to be similar to the RSS support that Apple Computer built into its Safari Web browser in Mac OS X Tiger, which Apple released in April. When you navigate to a Web site that includes an RSS feed, you'll see an illuminated icon in the toolbar. Click that icon, and the RSS feed will be displayed in the browser using "pretty views," Schare told me. You can then subscribe to the feed, which will add the subscription to a Common Feed List that's similar to but separate from IE's Favorites list.
Longhorn will also support programming APIs that make RSS content available to any application. Today, Microsoft will demonstrate a simple application that connects Microsoft Office Outlook to RSS feeds, providing continuously updated calendar items. Although Schare was careful not to confirm this prediction, it seems likely that the next version of Outlook, which will ship next year as part of Office 12, will support this functionality natively.
Microsoft's set of RSS extensions will be released freely through the Creative Commons License, the same specification under which the RSS standard was released. The extensions are necessary, Microsoft says, because RSS is natively designed to support only time-based data. The Simple List Extensions let RSS be used in other scenarios, such as ordered information that might appear in a list.
"We salute Microsoft's decision to license its Simple List Extensions via Creative Commons, which offers creators a way to both protect their work and to encourage broad uses of them," said Lawrence Lessig, a professor of law at Stanford Law School and the founder of Creative Commons. "Microsoft's flexibility with its intellectual property will positively impact a wide range of content publishers and the RSS community as a whole."
Schare told me that the version of IE 7.0 that ships this year for Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP users will support the RSS discover/view/subscribe functionality but not the APIs that let developers interact with RSS-based data. IE 7.0 Beta 1 is still on track for "this summer," Schare said, although the initial public release will be "pretty basic," featuring only the fundamental plumbing that the browser needs. Designed for developers, IE 7.0 Beta 1 won't feature much end user "sex appeal," Schare said. Instead, the beta 2 release, expected later in 2005, will be more interesting to a broad range of consumers.
Reader Comments
Obligatory "Yawn" Post.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
It's about time, paul. As great as firefox is, it has problems, and a lot of people still use MSIE. I'm glad Microsoft finally got up and decided to do something about their outdated browser.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
yeah, when Apple announced Safari RSS plans.. Paul was predictably unimpressed...
Now about a year later, when MS starts talking about a product already in the hands of Mac owners, Paul gets really stoked..
What am I missing...?
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
Yet to care about RSS.
totally worthless and useless to me.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
This is far more extensive than Safari's RSS capability.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
"IE 7.0's RSS features seem to be similar to the RSS support that Apple Computer built into its Safari Web browser in Mac OS X Tiger, which Apple released in April. "
What a shock. I think I'm going to die from that shock.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
Where does he get excited? It seems more like he's just reporting what other people in the industry have said.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
I dont get the hype over RSS, I've tried it and it just isnt worth all the hype people to it and all the time webmasters put into it to get feeds online.
When I'm browsing websites I want to actally see the site, not a summary of it's contents, that's why I'm using a web browser to look at sites and not DOS.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
Welecome to to the 21st centurty IE! We missed you for a long time.
"yeah, when Apple announced Safari RSS plans.. Paul was predictably unimpressed...
Now about a year later, when MS starts talking about a product already in the hands of Mac owners, Paul gets really stoked..
What am I missing...?"
You may be right, but this is WINInfo, emphasizing the WIN, as in WINdows. I doubt that that ThinkSecret or Apple Insider get too excited about the announcement of MS features that Apple does not have yet.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
"IE 7.0's RSS features seem to be similar to the RSS support that Apple Computer built into its Safari Web browser in Mac OS X Tiger, which Apple released in April. "
Everyone thats complaining about this, you missed the big points.
"Second, Microsoft will add pervasive APIs directly to Longhorn so that developers can take advantage of RSS in their own applications. Third, the company will create a new set of RSS extensions, called Simple List Extensions, that will make it easier for Web sites to publish as RSS feeds lists such as music playlists or top 10 lists."
If you were saying something earlier about IE 7.0, then chances are you don't even understand points two and three, which happen to be what the evolution is all about. They showed demos and scenarios today and it's also being showed off in an interview at Channel 9.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
Does this mean that when a new version of a programme is available, like that small app download.com used to have, you will automatically know when it is available and download it.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
""yeah, when Apple announced Safari RSS plans.. Paul was predictably unimpressed..."
b u l l s h i t.
Here's what Paul said on his (Exciting!) Windows! Supersite!:
"Apple's Safari Web browser is excellent, offering speedy performance and excellent Web rendering. In Tiger, Safari is updated to include integrated support for Real Simple Syndication (RSS) and Atom feeds, technologies that many blogs now use. When Safari hits an RSS or Atom-backed Web site, like the New York Times, you'll see a new "RSS" button in the Safari address bar (Figure). Click this, and the site's RSS feed is displayed, using a clean Apple-created design that features a right-mounted frame for controlling the amount of information you see and various sorting options. This screen is not otherwise customizable per se, but it is gorgeous and well-designed. RSS feeds can thus be bookmarked like any other Web page, which is exactly the way it should work, when you think about it."
Huh. That doesn't sound like he was "unimpressed" at all.
Moron.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
If you want RSS icon flashing whenever you're in a website that provides RSS you can use Opera 8 (at least). But hey, better late than never.
What I'm troubled with is: "We're making a major RSS investment in Longhorn and will integrate the technology throughout the OS."
I hope that they remeber why LH's IE will be using least-privileged. :rolleyes:
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
>>Obligatory "Yawn" Post.
Well done. I like your class. I been away for a few days with a family emergency. Thanks for carrying the ball. - Yawn!
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
has you type the word YAWN i am ******** in your mouth.....you *** holes.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
I don't think I've seen a larger congregation of misinformed commenters. Go read what happened intead of knee jerking. It's like a nuclear bomb went off in your back yard and you're complaining that the pilot light on the stove isn't that impressive. So what if Safari has RSS. Did you not read anything? Everything on the Windows platform will have RSS and have it in ways that you can't even imagine today. You will look back on your posts 5 years from now and realize this. You're being myopic.
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
Yawn? Just take one piece of this story - Lessig congratulating Microsoft on this move. This is the guy who architected the MS antitrust case. Microsoft was public enemy number one. And now he's delivering praise? Why do you people eat for breakfast? Stupid pills?
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
This is very exciting news. I'm particularly interested to see what the developer community can do with this. It seems to me this opens up a world of possibilities. I've got about 100 use cases and business models running through my head right now. I think 10 years from now our interactions with computing devices (PCs, PDAs, phones) will be unrecognizable compared to today. This is paradigm shifting stuff for developers and ultimately users. I just have to chuckle at these "Safari already has RSS" comments. Admit it. You have no idea what what just happened or what this means. Do you?
Anonymous User -June 24, 2005
As a user of Internet Explorer and RSS feed readers I think this is exciting news.
Just need a filter for the lowlifes who needs to let everyone know that someone did it before.
WHO CARES?
Anonymous User -June 25, 2005
The first implementation of any technology is almost never the best, be it hardware or software. There is always a way to make it better, or expand on the original concept. For this reason, I don't see the point that the Apple people are trying to make. Being first to the market with anything just means you're going to be the first to be one-uped.
Anonymous User -June 25, 2005
Huh. That doesn't sound like he was "unimpressed" at all.
Moron.
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No. You have to go to the actualy annoucement and introduction of Tiger, etc. They started talking about the new features in Tiger...
Paul described the new iChat as "they have videoconferencing now" which is retarded..Because of course the videoconferencing on iChat is gorgeous.. H.264 is what makes it so... Widgets were annouced.. Paul tore that to ****, because of Konfab.. (notice a trend here?) and then he casually mentioned that Apple had nothing interesting in store for Safari.. that an RSS update was minor and unimpressive..
Do you honestly think he would have dissed H.264 and then gone on to applaud Safari for RSS feeds?!?!
Come on..
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
Seconded.
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
Why do you think Mac people are always showing off our computers? We're not pugnacious pricks, we're trying to help the *nix community so that when MS finally pushes what OSX and Linux have been doing for years people will actually believe us when we offhandedly say it's been done before and they're being held back by Windows.
We take so much ridicule for you guys. :)
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
"Everything on the Windows platform will have RSS and have it in ways that you can't even imagine today. You will look back on your posts 5 years from now and realize this. You're being myopic."
Every single new technology Microsoft announces is hyped to be integrated into everything else, and when it finally comes out, it's buggy and incomplete, and nobody uses it. I could list hundreds of examples. Even .NET is being scaled back in Longhorn.
The way Microsoft fans completely buy into their marketing so gullibly is amazing to me. This is a company that has proven time and time again that it is the master of overhyped vaporware that doesn't meet their original ambitions.
At any rate, welcome to RSS technology, which the entire rest of the browsing world has been using for the past 5 years. Way to go, Micro$oft!
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
I love how the new IE7 RSS screenshots look *EXACTLY* like Safari RSS.
Microsoft will never stop copying Apple, and Microsoft kidz will never stop pretending it's not happening. Have fun with your pulldown menus, icons, "Recycle Bin," and "Start menu" (rip-off of Apple menu).
LOL.
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
Yet another reason OS X *crushes* Windows:
http://www.project-think.com/tipinfo.php?ID=2
"OS X is simply better than Windows. Especially for power users." - Paul Thurrott
"Longhorn is a trainwreck." - Paul Thurrott
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
"We're trying to help the *nix community so that when MS finally pushes what OSX and Linux have been doing for years people will actually believe us when we offhandedly say it's been done before and they're being held back by Windows."
So, you're now spokespeople for the *nix community by using a BSD OS? I quite a bit find humor in that. You know what happens when I tell users "it's been done"? They don't care. People are comfortable with the platform they use, and having a "superior" platform doesn't mean crap. Where have you been the last 20 years?
"Every single new technology Microsoft announces is hyped to be integrated into everything else, and when it finally comes out, it's buggy and incomplete, and nobody uses it."
Run as command in context menus (I use it).
Start menu and task bar (tons of people use it).
"At any rate, welcome to RSS technology, which the entire rest of the browsing world has been using for the past 5 years. Way to go, Micro$oft!"
Opera has had Really Simple Syndication for the past 5 years? Nutscrape Navigayor (look mommy, I can come up with partially-borrowed stupid names too) has? 5 years ago, RSS was like 1.0 I believe, and hardly ANYONE used it (compared to today).
"I love how the new IE7 RSS screenshots look *EXACTLY* like Safari RSS."
No it doesn't. 'Similar' and 'exactly like' don't mean the same thing :P.
"Have fun with your pulldown menus, icons, "Recycle Bin," and "Start menu" (rip-off of Apple menu)."
1) Apple didn't invent icons. That concept was pre-apple.
2) The start menu isn't in Mac OS.
3) Just because someone else did it first doesn't make it a "rip-off". Are menus in linux GUIs rip-offs of Apple's too?
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
"and when it finally comes out, it's buggy and incomplete"
That describes a LOT of software that's new. 1.0\first releases aren't known for their completeness and stability. It's amazing to me someone that used Mac OS 9 (probably) is complaining about this, when they used an OS, that for 9 versions, couldn't prevent it from hanging all the time.
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
Microsoft isn't going away.
Even if *nix/bsd was heavily adopted, that wouldn't stop a software company from programs. As long as their dev tools and office suite were good, I would continue to use them.
Keep in mind this: NT, 9x and CE are all differently structured kernels, yet they (for the most part) can run each other's programs. Do you honestly thing the user-presentation mode of Windows couldn't sit on top of a linux kernel? All you have to do is re-write some base DLLs for the most part (ntdll, kernel32, gdi32, user32, etc.).
If F/OSS wants to win, it needs to fight software patents much better than it is. It needs to provide the same kind of quality and feature count found in stuff like Office. It needs to advertise a lot more too. If firefox is the one of the greatest successes of OSS, that's sad, considering how much of the user base still uses MSIE (felt by many to be an inferior product).
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
I notice some people around here are talking up MSIE, and it's like WHY?
Yeah, firefox has had a FEW "vulnerabilities" that are patched very quickly. The patch distribution system isn't that great, but it's better still than the rate that MS generally releases patches. They aren't the same types of vulnerabilities either. Firefox for the most part, hasn't had bugs where a file can be automatically downloaded and ran on your computer (unlike a certian INFAMOUS browser that still has problems, and is still heavily targeted by evil doers).
IE doesn't support alpha-channels in PNGs. IE doesn't support CSS as well as Firefox does, and FIREFOX HAS TABBED BROWSING AND RSS (both are really useful). IE only runs on Windows (well, Mac/Unix no longer supported), where as firefox runs on a lot of OSes, and Firefox is highly customizable/skinnable.
It loads fast too...
Anonymous User -June 26, 2005
1) Apple didn't invent icons. That concept was pre-apple. 2) The start menu isn't in Mac OS. 3) Just because someone else did it first doesn't make it a "rip-off". Are menus in linux GUIs rip-offs of Apple's too?
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Huh? The Start menu isn't used much in OS X.. but it pretty much exists in the form of the apple menu.. Apple has the dock for frequently used apps, etc.. as a place to hold "Shortcuts"
For any other app, just use Spotlight.. the Finder.. or "Explorer" is virtually useless now.
Anonymous User -June 27, 2005
"Why do you people eat for breakfast? Stupid pills?"
From the looks of this comment, I think you have answered your own question.
Anonymous User -June 28, 2005
"The Start menu isn't used much in OS X.. but it pretty much exists in the form of the apple menu.."
Ah, so KDE's menu thing is also a "rip-off" of Apple, as if Apple owns that concept. It's amazing to me people who are so anti-patent go up in arms when someone does something remotely like something else already in their OS.
Seriously, lay off the stupid pills.
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