Yes, Longhorn build 4051 has leaked... I couldn't sleep (go figure), and for once it worked in my favor. As I noted Friday, Longhorn build 4051 (also called the PDC build at Microsoft) has leaked to the Internet, and it's now making the rounds at all the usual places. Look around for it, but don't get nervous: Within hours, this build should be so widely available online that virtually anyone should be able to find it. For the curious, Neowin has some shots of the build, which does feature the clean new Slate theme but is otherwise disconcertingly similar to the previous alpha builds I've seen. I'm asuming there's more going on here, but my reaction thus far isn't all that excited (yet). More info as it comes in (literally)... 10/26/2003 5:56AM PST
PDC goodie bag
PDC attendees are getting a small PDC 03 laptop bag with a PDC 2003 t-shirt, the full version of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional Edition, an assortment of free magazines and free magazine offers, the back-breaking book "Writing Secure Code 2nd Edition," and various other paper-based resources. We won't get the so-called "Bits" CD until Monday at 11:45 am; this is the CD that includes Longhorn build 4051. Good thing we just downloaded it, I guess.
10/26/2003 8:13AM PST
LA Convention Center
Well, we're here if that's not obvious, and waiting for the press room to open. The Los AngelesConvention Center is huge, with an Xbox game room, wired and wireless Internet connections everywhere, kiosks for those without PCs (inconceivable), food and beverages everywhere, the works. Very, very nice setup.
10/26/2003 8:24AM PST
Microsoft media briefing day
Today, we're sitting through a series of press briefings aimed more at getting people up to speed than delivering any new news. Some of this could be interesting though. We're getting updates on Microsoft's platform strategy, Web services architecture, Visual Studio .NET, Dynamic Systems Initiative (DSI), and Security.
10/26/2003 9:43AM PST
Longhorn Build 4051
Oh, and yeah, we're working on getting build 4051 installed on all our systems as I write this...
10/26/2003 9:45AM PST
PDC 2003 Alerts
Nice! Microsoft has set up a nice set of MSN Alerts for PDC 2003 attendees. You can choose between the following alerts: 1. Just the facts - Too busy posting blog entries every ten seconds? This Alert features just important logistical information: room changes, session additions and deletions. 2. Information overload - ...but in a good way. All general event news, headlines and late breaking geek intrigue. Don’t be left out: that snickering in the back of the room could be about you. Note: if you want to know about room changes choose Just the Facts as well. 3. Freebies - Enter to win cool freebies! Winners will be notified via Microsoft Alerts.
10/26/2003 9:59AM PST
PDC Vibe
Although it's not available for download yet, Microsoft is promoting a PDC application called PDC Vibe throughout the show on posters. We assume it will either be up later today or by early tomorrow. PDC Vibe is a community application that will allow attendees to read blogs, create their own profiles and download files. Looks interesting, and we'll post more when we get our hands on it.
10/26/2003 10:11AM PST
Microsoft platform strategy
Microsoft is doing a great job of bringing technical topics like Web services architectures down to a level that normal people (i.e. journalists) can understand. We spent most of the morning listening to very interesting presentations about Microsoft's various PDC-related platforms (Windows, Visual Studio, Web services, etc.) and how they all tie together. It's a big-picture view of the Microsoft world that we don't normally see. If we could boil the message down to an easily digested tag-line, it would have to be "integration innovation," which sounds strange, but is accurate.
10/26/2003 11:56AM PST
Longhorn Build 4051 ... Boring?
At the risk of sounding a bit negative, Longhorn build 4051 is, sorry, boring. Once you get over the mildly amusing Slate theme, and the slow and painful hardware detection, it's basically the same as previous alpha builds, albeit in more usable form. Explorer windows feature the Aero-like look that I first revealed on the SuperSite for Windows and... well, that's about it. There really isn't that much more to say, at least not yet. We've installed 4051 on three machines so far and we're not that impressed.
10/26/2003 1:44PM PST
Authors, pundits, and press oh my
We spent most of the first half of the day in various press events. Seen in the press lounge: Outspoken science fiction author and PC industry report Jerry Pournelle and author Brian Livingston of "Windows 3.1 Secrets" and "Windows 95 Secrets" fame. As usual, Pournelle was having problems getting his email sent (he went on a tirade over this at WinHEC, but we tried to help him this time to no avail). In the afternoon, we set about taking Longhorn build 4051 screen captures for tomorrow's SuperSite update. We took over 300 screenshots altogether, though only a small percentage will be posted live.
10/26/2003 3:12PM PST
Los Angeles ... Muggy, hot ... and on fire
The fires raging around Los Angeles are now affecting the PDC. We were supposed to have dinner this evening with a few folks from Microsoft but massive amounts of smoke at LAX cancelled virtually all flights today, stranding at least 50 Microsofties in Seattle. Good thing we got in yesterday.
10/26/2003 7:14PM PST
So what's new in Longhorn build 4051?
Well, we've spent several hours playing with Longhorn build 4051, and while we're still not overly impressed--tomorrow's Gates keynote better kill or these guys have some explaining to do--we have at least gotten the gist of what's going on in this build. First, it's a dog on any system with less than 512 MB of RAM, so consider that a base amount (up from 256 in Windows XP). The new content aggregator Libraries are more usable in this build than in previous alphas, and it's clear that a lot of what we're seeing now are just placeholders for future refinements. For example, you can dynamic scale the icons in any Explorer window, like you can in Mac OS X: There's just one difference: Longhorn's icons are currently the junky old bitmapped versions we've all used before and they don't scale well at all. We think the new Aero UI will fix that. Contacts are now integrated directly into the file system, which makes sense when you consider the file system's new database capabilities. The digital image stuff is very much enhanced with simple image red eye removal and quick fix features in Image Preview, and a new zooming mode in Paint (yes paint) that makes that app truly usable. Oddly, Outlook Express 7 has been dramatically improved to more closely resemble MSN 8.5, and Internet Explorer 6.05 (which will surely be at least version 7 in the final build) includes pop-up ad blocking and a download manager. 10/26/2003 8:27PM PST
Reader Comments
is build 4051 installed yet on your system?!
Editor's note: Yes. I'll have screenshots galleries available tomorrow on the SuperSite. --Paul
Will M. -October 26, 2003
Is DCE enabled in 4051
Editor's note: Sadly, no. Only the Lab 06 builds have the new effects. --Paul
T. Uron -October 26, 2003
Paul,
Where did you find the Alerts for PDC 2003? I've been looking around without any luck. There is nothing on commnet. Thanks.
.savas.
Editor's note: http://pdcvibe/alerts.html --Paul
Savas -October 26, 2003
Would you say Longhorn build 4051 appears to be more stable than previous builds?
Editor's note: No, not really. --Paul
Nick S. -October 26, 2003
Well... Let's take into consideration that if no one had acquired the previous 4 leaks, this build probably wouldn't be considered "boring"... but that's just simply not the case and thus the build is quite... boring. lol. We did it to ourselves though. Get some good shots of the AERO demo guys! I hear it'll make everyone feel like they were ripped off with being given the PDC build. ;) Keep up the good work.
Jeff -October 26, 2003
Hi,
why doesnt MS start from scratch like Apple did w/ OS X? Srcap the old code and start with a clean sheet of health? (BeOS?...)
Thanks,
Danny
Editor's note: They just have too many customers to ignore backwards compatibility. They very specifically showed a DOS version of VisiCalc running on Longhorn today to emphasize that. --Paul
Danny Kaey -October 26, 2003
Paul, would like to meet you, fan of your work, not a stalker, just want to shake your hand and say thanks. Drop me a mail, or stop by the "Protect Your PC" kiosk in the main lobby, there 7-3pm when I'm not harrassing developers.
Matt Arevalo -October 26, 2003
Hi Paul,
Another interesting Report. Thank you. I was goiung to 512MB Ram next week to run XP without a Swap file on my seriously modified Gateway C667 test machine.
Perhaps IG might be more suitable.
Wish I could be with you in LA: Maybe next year.
Glynn.
Glynn Morgan -October 26, 2003
So what's new in Longhorn build 4051?
- It also includes IIS 7 :)
Editor's note: Yep. And some peer-to-peer app. --Paul
Someone -October 26, 2003
Is it true that Longhorn Build 4051 will be legally available for download from MS?
Editor's note: That's what I've heard, yeah. --Paul
Glenn Beaumaris -October 27, 2003
Great post there! I can't wait to see the screenshots and most of all the review. :)
Francisco -October 27, 2003
Is it true that Build 4051's explorer process leaks alot of memory?
Kris K -October 27, 2003
And where did the little Movie Maker app go in the 4051 build ?? gone.
Editor's note: I suspect there is going to be something dramatic happening there. I know they are doing a movie DVD app; perhaps it will be combined with WMM? --Paul
Kadang -October 27, 2003
Hey, Paul, very interested to know more about the pop-up blocking and download manager in IE! This is the first time I've heard of Microsoft actually progressing to the modern browser age in a very long time.
Editor's note: Yeah, me too. I'll have more as soon as possible. --Paul
Preston Sumner -October 27, 2003
Paul - is the 512MB base requirement likely to change before release.
Is Explorer faster/slower in Longhorn compared to XP?
Editor's note: Much slower. Remember this is an early developer release, however. And 512 MB of RAM won't sound like a lot in 2-3 years. --Paul
Robert Knight -October 28, 2003
Windows? A new version? and you are LUCKY about it?
zax -October 30, 2003
It's true,longhorn 4051 requires at least 512 mb ram !
But the most $^#$ing thing is...
THE INSTALL !: The hardware-detection is only completed after 40 minutes !!!
UltraHackX -November 09, 2003
e legal windows
Franz -December 02, 2003
i want longhorn
jan wold -December 04, 2003
i want longhorn
Ali Alyafai -December 20, 2003
whats the minimum system requirements for longhorn.do it will detect ATI radeon 9600xt video cards or do give problems ??
finally,is it adviceable for a intermediate pc user to install a longhorn 4051 OS ?
thanks
Gopi -February 10, 2004
good job, very good, super fine.... i liked news... please
juan carlos hernandez garcia -June 28, 2004
I saw somewhere about the Device Manager in the gallery, where it said
"Intal 800MHz 80GHz RAM 20GB HDD"... whats up!!!
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